7800 VS 2630 - 3030

[BubbaJr]

Here's something to consider. I have a B2910 with the extendable arms. When I first got the tractor I used the extensions all the time. Then when I got a concrete floor in my new barn I built dollies for all my attachments, and I can't remember using the extendable arms for anything since. If your circumstance is similar to mine, the arms may not be necessary.
BTW, I looked at a new B3030 w/cab today, and all I can say is "I'm in love". That is one sweet tractor. My salesman is coming out to look at my tractor to give me a trade-in value next week. The down side is that there is nothing at all wrong with my tractor after over 800 hours. So I know that it's going to be almost impossible to get that purchase past the "Banking Commitee". Oh well, maybe I'll have to start playing the lottery. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[BubbaJr]

Here's something to consider. I have a B2910 with the extendable arms. When I first got the tractor I used the extensions all the time. Then when I got a concrete floor in my new barn I built dollies for all my attachments, and I can't remember using the extendable arms for anything since. If your circumstance is similar to mine, the arms may not be necessary.
BTW, I looked at a new B3030 w/cab today, and all I can say is "I'm in love". That is one sweet tractor. My salesman is coming out to look at my tractor to give me a trade-in value next week. The down side is that there is nothing at all wrong with my tractor after over 800 hours. So I know that it's going to be almost impossible to get that purchase past the "Banking Commitee". Oh well, maybe I'll have to start playing the lottery. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[kingoflawns]

Get a note from your doctor to reduce your exposure to sunlight, the fact cab is sweet, its worth the $.

 

[kingoflawns]

Get a note from your doctor to reduce your exposure to sunlight, the fact cab is sweet, its worth the $.

 

[ovrszd]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Here's something to consider. I have a B2910 with the extendable arms. When I first got the tractor I used the extensions all the time. Then when I got a concrete floor in my new barn I built dollies for all my attachments, and I can't remember using the extendable arms for anything since. If your circumstance is similar to mine, the arms may not be necessary.
BTW, I looked at a new B3030 w/cab today, and all I can say is "I'm in love". That is one sweet tractor. My salesman is coming out to look at my tractor to give me a trade-in value next week. The down side is that there is nothing at all wrong with my tractor after over 800 hours. So I know that it's going to be almost impossible to get that purchase past the "Banking Commitee". Oh well, maybe I'll have to start playing the lottery. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Did you investigate the 3030 well enough to tell me what the differences are between it and your 2910???? I might find a used 2910 at a good price but don't want to miss any differences in bells and whistles. Thanks for your help.

 

[ovrszd]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Here's something to consider. I have a B2910 with the extendable arms. When I first got the tractor I used the extensions all the time. Then when I got a concrete floor in my new barn I built dollies for all my attachments, and I can't remember using the extendable arms for anything since. If your circumstance is similar to mine, the arms may not be necessary.
BTW, I looked at a new B3030 w/cab today, and all I can say is "I'm in love". That is one sweet tractor. My salesman is coming out to look at my tractor to give me a trade-in value next week. The down side is that there is nothing at all wrong with my tractor after over 800 hours. So I know that it's going to be almost impossible to get that purchase past the "Banking Commitee". Oh well, maybe I'll have to start playing the lottery. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Did you investigate the 3030 well enough to tell me what the differences are between it and your 2910???? I might find a used 2910 at a good price but don't want to miss any differences in bells and whistles. Thanks for your help.

 

[ronjhall]

Here is a link to a inspection of a B3030. Click Here. I own a B2910. After doing the inspection and all the changes I would need to make to my FEL attachments. I decided to not spend the money.

 

[ronjhall]

Here is a link to a inspection of a B3030. Click Here. I own a B2910. After doing the inspection and all the changes I would need to make to my FEL attachments. I decided to not spend the money.

 

[BubbaJr]

Outside of the cab, and the obvious differences related to it, the first thing I noticed was the absence of the clutch pedal. The Pto's are hydraulic activated. There is a small pedal in place of the clutch pedal that releases the lock to move the steering wheel up and down. The cruise control and 3PH handles are similar, as are the brake pedals. The 4WD lever has been moved down off the fender. The speed pedal is a one piece unit rather than 2 different pedals (I haven't made up my mind whether I like that or not). It has a cup holder, and it's supposed to have a larger tool box. It still has 3 speed ranges but with only one neutral. I think the engine sounds a little louder and more powerful than mine, but they both have the same HP rating. The power steering is a real power unit rather than using the tractor hydraulics. The hood is a little bit easier to see over, but not much. The front grill has the fine mesh on the outside of the grille, which makes it a lot easier to clean weed seeds etc. from the grill. The seat on the B3030 I drove seemed loose, but that may have been an assembly error. The dash layout is a little different but has the same info.

If I were in the market for another B2910, and found a good used one, and also a new B3030 w/o a cab, I would definitely buy another B2910 as I don't think there are enough differences between the two to justify the trade up. BUT, if I had the option of moving up to a B3030 w/cab, It's a done deal. A/C in the summer and heat in the winter, (I'm in Ohio and we get plenty of heat and cold) PLUS get seat time, it's a no brainer. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[BubbaJr]

Outside of the cab, and the obvious differences related to it, the first thing I noticed was the absence of the clutch pedal. The Pto's are hydraulic activated. There is a small pedal in place of the clutch pedal that releases the lock to move the steering wheel up and down. The cruise control and 3PH handles are similar, as are the brake pedals. The 4WD lever has been moved down off the fender. The speed pedal is a one piece unit rather than 2 different pedals (I haven't made up my mind whether I like that or not). It has a cup holder, and it's supposed to have a larger tool box. It still has 3 speed ranges but with only one neutral. I think the engine sounds a little louder and more powerful than mine, but they both have the same HP rating. The power steering is a real power unit rather than using the tractor hydraulics. The hood is a little bit easier to see over, but not much. The front grill has the fine mesh on the outside of the grille, which makes it a lot easier to clean weed seeds etc. from the grill. The seat on the B3030 I drove seemed loose, but that may have been an assembly error. The dash layout is a little different but has the same info.

If I were in the market for another B2910, and found a good used one, and also a new B3030 w/o a cab, I would definitely buy another B2910 as I don't think there are enough differences between the two to justify the trade up. BUT, if I had the option of moving up to a B3030 w/cab, It's a done deal. A/C in the summer and heat in the winter, (I'm in Ohio and we get plenty of heat and cold) PLUS get seat time, it's a no brainer. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Toolguy]

Everyone here has their own opinion of what a tractor should or shouldn't have so I'll add mine, too.

The Clutch; For PHD use only it might be an advantage but, I am easily able to set on the seat, turn around to the right with my right hand on the postion control lever and with my left hand behind my back, operate the PTO control. Without having to be in position to have my left foot on a clutch I can turn around more completely in the seat to look backwards, too. The PTO control on my B3030 is very smooth. It engages quickly and smoothly just like putting an automatic transmission in a car in drive. No bang or jerk. I think it would work just fine for a PHD. It certainly works well with the MMM. As far as it being a safety issue allowing you to stop the tractor quickly, just letting up on the hydro pedal does the same thing.

No need to have the gear selector in neutral to start. As long as you do not have the hydro pedal pushed down it will start in any gear.

The tilt steering wheel pedal. This is the most underated feature on this tractor. You will not believe how handy it is until you use it. Very cool idea by the Kubota engineers. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Toolbox; Adequate, nothing special about it.

Cupholder: Don't use it, Don't need it, Wonder why it's even there. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I trimmed the air snorkel off about 1/2" so it is not in the way when removing the radiator screen.

Last thing. Like someone else said, people try to make a B7800 into a B3030 but no one tries to make a B3030 into a B7800. Enough said.

 

[Toolguy]

Everyone here has their own opinion of what a tractor should or shouldn't have so I'll add mine, too.

The Clutch; For PHD use only it might be an advantage but, I am easily able to set on the seat, turn around to the right with my right hand on the postion control lever and with my left hand behind my back, operate the PTO control. Without having to be in position to have my left foot on a clutch I can turn around more completely in the seat to look backwards, too. The PTO control on my B3030 is very smooth. It engages quickly and smoothly just like putting an automatic transmission in a car in drive. No bang or jerk. I think it would work just fine for a PHD. It certainly works well with the MMM. As far as it being a safety issue allowing you to stop the tractor quickly, just letting up on the hydro pedal does the same thing.

No need to have the gear selector in neutral to start. As long as you do not have the hydro pedal pushed down it will start in any gear.

The tilt steering wheel pedal. This is the most underated feature on this tractor. You will not believe how handy it is until you use it. Very cool idea by the Kubota engineers. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Toolbox; Adequate, nothing special about it.

Cupholder: Don't use it, Don't need it, Wonder why it's even there. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I trimmed the air snorkel off about 1/2" so it is not in the way when removing the radiator screen.

Last thing. Like someone else said, people try to make a B7800 into a B3030 but no one tries to make a B3030 into a B7800. Enough said.

 

[BubbaJr]

Hi Ron,
I asked the salesman about mounting an FEL on the B3030 w/cab, and he wasn't sure how it was done. I went to the Kubota website and also looked at the brochure, and they don't show any of those units with the FEL structure mounted on the tractor. I did see in one of the pictures where they had the FEL hydraulics mounted in front of the cab, but there was no framework for the FEL. Do you know how they mount the joystick? Do they remove the lower window and mount it similar to the B2910, or is it mounted differently? Also will the joystick restrict exiting the cab on the right side? Thanks for doing the research. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[BubbaJr]

Hi Ron,
I asked the salesman about mounting an FEL on the B3030 w/cab, and he wasn't sure how it was done. I went to the Kubota website and also looked at the brochure, and they don't show any of those units with the FEL structure mounted on the tractor. I did see in one of the pictures where they had the FEL hydraulics mounted in front of the cab, but there was no framework for the FEL. Do you know how they mount the joystick? Do they remove the lower window and mount it similar to the B2910, or is it mounted differently? Also will the joystick restrict exiting the cab on the right side? Thanks for doing the research. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[Stef]

The valve is not the same. In fact, it's the same but it's upside down with a remote joystick. The cables pass beneath the deck and through a hole near the right fender in the deck. I asked my dealer for a remote valve when I bought my B3030. I was a bit jealous about the joystick on a JD. Here are two pics showing the thing.

I forgot to say that what I like the most about that kind of joystick is the possibility to position the joystick as you want (inclination and rotation) to be comfortable.

 

[Stef]

The valve is not the same. In fact, it's the same but it's upside down with a remote joystick. The cables pass beneath the deck and through a hole near the right fender in the deck. I asked my dealer for a remote valve when I bought my B3030. I was a bit jealous about the joystick on a JD. Here are two pics showing the thing.

I forgot to say that what I like the most about that kind of joystick is the possibility to position the joystick as you want (inclination and rotation) to be comfortable.

 

[Stef]

Close up of the valve. As you can see there's no obstruction for the cab with a valve mounted like that.

 

[Stef]

Close up of the valve. As you can see there's no obstruction for the cab with a valve mounted like that.

 

[ronjhall]

Do you know the price you paid for the upgrade? Or did dealer just order the Cab model FEL?

 

[ronjhall]

Do you know the price you paid for the upgrade? Or did dealer just order the Cab model FEL?