6000 compared to a 7520 in economy

[fastgun]

Hello all, I have enjoyed this forum for a couple of weeks now. This is my first post and I begin my quest to narrow down my decision of which machine to buy.

Please help me understand the turbo. If I understand it correctly, the 6000 and the 7520 share the same engine. The difference being the 7520 is turbo boosted.

If the two machines were side by side each engine running at the same identical speed would they burn the same amount of fuel?

I know the 7520 produces much more horsepower from the turbo, I am seeking to understand how that power is produced.

If the 7520 gets it's power by pumping more fuel and air into the engine than the 6000, why would one not just use a larger engine and get the power and more fuel use from displacement? Or, is there a benefit in a turbo engine that just more displacement would not give?

Thank you.

 

[jwcinpk]

Come on down to Ketucky and you can run both these engines side by side and feel the difference of the turbo. I have both the 7010 cab which uses the 7520 engine and a 6000 4x4. Both weigh in about the same. Both have basically the same footprint. I can tell you with only 14 hours on the 7010 it will use quite a bit more fuel than the 6000. I can also tell you they've turned that engine loose in the 7520 and 7010. The power is amazing and it's right where you need it, on the bottom end. Instead of grunting it's way out of a hard pull like the 6000 the 7010 whistles and goes.
Which tractor is right for you depends on your needs. Until just recently I used the 6000 as an only tractor to do everything I needed on our 170 acre farm.

 

[fastgun]

Thank you sir!

I am a mechanical whizz.....it all whizzes in one ear out the other!

I thought the turbo would use more fuel.

Man I wish the Mahindra line was just a little different. The 6500 and 6000 are very cramped (for me) and the fuel fill up on top is a headache from my view point anyway! A real mess for that inevitable spill over.

The 6520 is so nice and non turbo! but the rated bucket/loader times 6520 are the slowest in the 60 HP and up tractors.....very slow even compared to the humble 25 series.

Oh well, just need to shop some more and fine tune my wants..

Thanks

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I don't know what you are going to be using your tractor for, and I guess that if you just set in one place and wait for the loader to lift 11 feet high, then maybe it would be slow, but in real world operation I sure don't do that on a regular basis. I operate the bucket as the tractor moves and find that what a few people complain about as far as lift times does not really come into play with normal everyday use. In fact I would not like some of the lift times that are advertised on some of the tractors. If stuff moves to fast it makes things harder to control as a nice smooth movement.

Just my opinion, I'm sure that others will vary.

 

[fastgun]

I have owned slow buckets so I do not get excited about buying one that is rated slow...but as you say it is really not just sitting and waiting you can usually move the load a it is lifting, good point.

That 6520 is nice....so is the 7520, shoot so is the 4500 and those cute little 25 and 35's!

Thank you for the reply.

 

[jwcinpk]

Just my personal opinion here, but the lift times are fast enough. I have no complaints with either of my loaders. They may be slower than some, but I've not had a problem lifting whatever I wanted or getting my work done in a reasonable amount of time.
Some food for thought here on the fuel fill location on the 00 series. I shopped and shopped for a tractor when I chose the 6000. At the time it was the biggest Mahindra offered. I've filled mine with pesky jugs for years. While it's been a pain at times and I've scratched my hood and fill area with the jugs I have never had a problem with my fuel system. Just in the last year or so I picked up a tank and a battery powered fill nozzle. I splurged and spent close to a thousand bucks. You can get them much cheaper. No worries now, put the fuel fill wherever they want it won't bother me a bit. The moral is if you choose Mahindra take some of the money you'll save against the other brands and pick yourself up a nice tank and pump.
The most important thing to remember is if you are looking for a rock solid, easy to work on, reasonably priced workhorse don't discount the 00 series because of the fuel fill area or what are percieved as slow loader times. I'd much rather have a good solid tractor with obstacles I'll have no trouble overcoming than one that presents obstacles I might not overcome.

 

[Slippy]

I use a 30 and 55 gallon drum and bought a cheap hand pump from harbour freight. Picked up some clear hose from hardware store and attached to the pump. I just put the end of the hose in the tank and crank. No more lifting, spilling etc. I also make less trips for fuel and can buy it for ag use w/o tax. Never thought of fuel filling as being a + or - for buying tractor. The 6000 is a fine machine and continues to do everything I aske of it. In my humble opinion there are only two main reasons for going larger; 1) the 7520 or 20 series is much more operator friendly and 2) the extra pto hp for attachments. Like right now I am looking to get baler and mower and usually need around 70 pto hp to start.

I agree with others on the lift times. Not a big deal, even with all day operations. Majority of time lifting starts while moving and finishes with moving.

 

[fastgun]

Thank you for the well reasoned replies. I appreciate them all.

 

[jwcinpk]

In my humble opinion there are only two main reasons for going larger; 1) the 7520 or 20 series is much more operator friendly and 2) the extra pto hp for attachments. Like right now I am looking to get baler and mower and usually need around 70 pto hp to start.

What kind of baler can't you run with the 6000? I roll and square with mine! Have for 5 years. Also an 8ft cut disc mower. Saw a 4500 2wd rolling hay. Can you say shizaaam?

 

[Slippy]

I am just reading the lit on the balers. The Case IH lit calls for min of 70 pto hp for anything 5' wide, i.e., RBX464, 554, and 564. The RBX454 which can produce 4' wide by 3-5 tall requires min 60 pto hp. What baler are u using on the 6000?