60 HP tractor big enough for 200 acres?

[PJSprog]

Awesome, vanskills! Looking forward to the boatload of pictures you'll surely be sharing with us. :thumbsup:

 

[TSO]

Congrats... Did you end up comparing machines at the closer Massey dealer?

 

[airbiscuit]

Yoo Hoo :drink: You are going to be over the top happy.

 

[AKfish]

When your going out to clear trees, you take your 110 over the 5085? Do you feel the 110 is more heavily built for taking a beating vs the larger Deere?
(This may be better as a pm but in case the OP is interested as well I'll post it here)

This is always a fun exercise - spending someone else's money! But, to answer... Absolutely! Comparing the 110 to either of my cab, loader-tractors is like comparing your Kubota 4610 to a Kubota L45/48/47 TLB.

Night and day - difference.

The 4610 will be salvage and the 45-47 TLB will still be looking for the next project.

 

[mike69440]

This is always a fun exercise - spending someone else's money! But, to answer... Absolutely! Comparing the 110 to either of my cab, loader-tractors is like comparing your Kubota 4610 to a Kubota L45/48/47 TLB.

Night and day - difference.

The 4610 will be salvage and the 45-47 TLB will still be looking for the next project.

Yes mine is still running 2,000 plus hours in MY hands. That is saying a lot for the dedicated TLB's.

Acres depends on the terrain and condition.

When I started on my 17 Acres a D8 and a CAT 345 could have been used. Now I can get by if I had to with a small CUT.

 

[Creamer]

Congratulations on your decision. It will be really nice!

 

[BrokeFarmerJohn]

I'll back up Deerherd with the transmission question. Todays "gear tractors" with a hydraulic shuttle have no clutch! They are almost as simple to operate as a hst, only your using your hand to reverse and a tractor (in that HP range, your foot on the throttle). Unlike a hst, you are locked into a gear unless you shift up or down, but again in that HP range, you're generally have a pretty wide speed range (in each gear) with your throttle. Try one out, this will free up your HP constraints if you can do without the hst transmission. I would also guess that in your area, if you were to want to up size (sell/trade it) or what ever, a gear tractor might be preferred by the "old school" farmer/rancher that view a hst tractor as an overgrown garden tractor just because of the pedal transmission *(like me)
I believe that the higher HP tractors are not offered with hst by the manufacturer's for a reason. They likely have 16 or many more gears or a CVT trans. but not a hydrostatic.:2cents:

* I would like to have a 40hp tractor with a hst myself, just not my only tractor for 200 ac.!

I'll agree with this, my first tractor was my 05 4320 HST 48hp tractor, less than two months later I hopped in a 6130 I believe it was, (110-130hp) keep in mind, first time ever jumping into a tractor that size. Nobody showed me how to drive it but I found it to be self explanatory and within 5 mins I had no issues driving it. I used it to load my trailer with round bales. Nothing to it.

If it was my land I would buy more industrial used equipment. All that you want to do, my 48HP tractor will do that, 4-5 HP per ft on a mower, I could run a 8-10ft mower without too much issues. That being said bigger is always better. With mowers, bailers ext.

I would buy a 2wd 70-130hp tractor without a loader and R1 tires, something older but reliable for bush hogging and large PTO hp stuff like a round baler if you go that route.

Next I would buy a nice compact 30-50hp with R4s that's 4x4, that will handle the logging on holly tighter spaces, smaller mower if needed, log splitter and misc loader work.

Only thing I would be a bit concerned with is building new roads, renting a dozer or backhoe would do that, rest the work can be done with other tractors.

I would start with the compact and go from there based on the needs that come up.

 

[Texasmark]

It is all a question of timing. DO you want to spent many days or weeks cutting your pasture with a 6 or 8 foot cutter or would you rather spend a small fortune on a 15 foot batwing mower and a 90+ HP tractor to pull it with and finish in a couple of days. We mowed the 42 acres at the brother in law and my place with a 650JD 2WD and turf tires and 4 foot mower. It took at least a month to get it all done, at least the parts we could get to without getting stuck. Finally I got a 45HP 4 WD with 6 foot bush hog and it was a bit faster with two tractors but still took several days of mowing to get it all done.

I now have my Kubota B26 TLB and my LS P7010 for my 11 acre parcel. Even with only 11 acres, I wouldn't want to be with only one tractor. I keep my TLB with the backhoe on all the time for dirt work and other chores involving grading and or digging. I use my LS for mowing, tilling, disking and larger dirt work activities. My brother in law has a 40 HP New Holland for mowing and moving round bale hay. This works out pretty good for our combined 42 acres.

For 200 acres I wouldn't look at anything less than 2 tractors to maintain it especially if you are "out in the sticks" as you say. If you want the wife to be able to use one with HST, look at something in the 40-60 HP size and then get something in the 80-100 HP to mow and move snow etc with.

Well for me nothing changed. When I worked I didn't have time for "DO you want to spent many days or weeks cutting your pasture with a 6 or 8 foot cutter or would you rather spend a small fortune on a 15 foot batwing mower and a 90+ HP tractor to pull it with and finish in a couple of days." If it was going to get done I needed adequately sized equipment. Now that I'm retired and have ample time, I still want to get it done. So nothing has changed.

 

[vanskills]

Congrats... Did you end up comparing machines at the closer Massey dealer?

Ya i looked at a 1758 Massey and a 4607 i think it was?

Nice machine i liked it, was probably my second favorite, I just felt the Kioti was a better deal

 

[Rustyiron]

Ordered a Kioti NX6010 HST cab today, it will be delivered in two weeks...I'll keep my progress posted

:cool2:
You going to live there in MT? You said you worked in ND.

 

[vanskills]

:cool2:
You going to live there in MT? You said you worked in ND.

Yup, I work in Williston North Dakota, drive home every friday (6 hours) and drive back sunday night

The wife is living large!..haha

 

[airbiscuit]

That Kioti will be good therapy. What did you get for options - rear remotes, 3rd function, etc.?

 

[vanskills]

That Kioti will be good therapy. What did you get for options - rear remotes, 3rd function, etc.?

HST, Two rear remotes, third function, filled tires, couldnt really think of anything i would want

I am a master electrician by trade even though i work as a consultant, so im going to trick it out pretty good once i get her, LED lights, dual front and rear cameras using an Ipad mini with wifi, custom stereo, you know all the important stuff!

Oh, and lots of beer holders

 

[airbiscuit]

Good choices. Did it come with R4s? Attachments now, or do they come later?

Like I said - Good Therapy.

 

[FatTire]

Maybe another addition to a person's situation is annual precip.? I imagine that area of MT is around 17 or 19 inches per year. Mowing? I don't know many people in ponderosa forests who do much mowing expect to knock down vegetation around buildings for fire danger. And if you have a horse or two you won't have tall grass even on a 100 or more acres. To the OP: Enjoy the new machine, it will probably do real well for you.

 

[vanskills]

Good choices. Did it come with R4s? Attachments now, or do they come later?

Like I said - Good Therapy.

I was gonna get AG tires but the Dealer talked me out of them, he looked at my property and said the Industrials that came on the Kioti would be the best fit so i went with it..

Only attachment im getting now is the loader of course, box blade and a 6 foot finish blade i already have...

Of course i want a grapple, backhoe, hole digger, mower, etc...but I want to get to know what the heck im doing on the tractor before i do all that so i buy the right attachments, dont want to buy twice

 

[airbiscuit]

When does it come? We'll want pics. Give it a good visual inspection and check all the fluids - to make sure nothing got missed, and to familiarize yourself with that process.

I expect you will be following EricTheOracle on this site!

 

[Piston]

This is always a fun exercise - spending someone else's money! But, to answer... Absolutely! Comparing the 110 to either of my cab, loader-tractors is like comparing your Kubota 4610 to a Kubota L45/48/47 TLB.

Night and day - difference.

The 4610 will be salvage and the 45-47 TLB will still be looking for the next project.

Thank you! I sent you a pm as well.

 

[jenkinsph]

Piston,
After 12 years of ownership I can say that I am amazed at some of the work I have done with my 110tlb. It has held up rather well but I do need to do some fix ups this year. I would expect the Kubota tlb models to be very similar in abilities and the M62 would be a great tlb.

 

[Piston]

Piston,
After 12 years of ownership I can say that I am amazed at some of the work I have done with my 110tlb. It has held up rather well but I do need to do some fix ups this year. I would expect the Kubota tlb models to be very similar in abilities and the M62 would be a great tlb.

Thanks Steve,
I'm getting more and more convinced that the M62 is the right "next tractor" for me, despite not having a factory cab available. I think I'll be able to work around that.