58 MPG by 2032

[ultrarunner]

@Grumpycat

If you dropped it down a gear and went slower at the same rpms you would probably get higher MPG.

My 1985 service van is like this… on highway loaded it gets better mileage in 3rd than 4th…

When it was new and empty 4th worked well… but at 9,000 gvw and highway ring and pinion not do much.

 

[5030]

I won't be concerned as I won't be here in 2032.

 

[Grumpycat]

@Grumpycat

If you dropped it down a gear and went slower at the same rpms you would probably get higher MPG.

Wasn't exactly a choice on the Avalon.

I have tried that with a good wind load in the back of my F-150. Trusted Fool Computer for 10 miles in 10th then reset and locked out 9 and 10 forcing it to run in 8th. Under that load and conditions, as close to the same as I was capable of telling.

Long ago a friend hauled a heavy 21' bass boat with 210 HP using a tall 1991 Toyota 4x4 pickup. Pulled good in 5th but one day he decided to top off, drive 100 miles to the lake, in 4th at 70 MPH. Said 2 MPG better.

Was fun learning how to make the truck display what gear it is in.

 

[Williy]

GRUMPYCAT I wonder how much gas, coal etc provided all
the electrons to get your put put to go the 73K+ miles?????
I have the 2003 cummins 5.9 at 75 -80 get 19 -20 and at 55
get between 25 - 30 mpg depends on the wind.

willy

 

[Grumpycat]

GRUMPYCAT I wonder how much gas, coal etc provided all
the electrons to get your put put to go the 73K+ miles?????
I have the 2003 cummins 5.9 at 75 -80 get 19 -20 and at 55
get between 25 - 30 mpg depends on the wind.

willy

“Measured from grid the Tesla is using 330 Wh/mile for 24369.84 kWh. At $0.10/kWh that is $2,436.98 or $0.033/mile.”

This month my rate is $0.104/kWh, but was under $0.080 when the Tesla was new. So $0.100 is a high lifetime estimate.

Then total cost was $2,436.98. The answer to your question is “how much gas, coal, etc” can you buy for $2436.98? Not much.

Then consider most of the delivered cost of electricity is the time value of money to pay for the wires and generating facilities.

TVA has a cost of fuel surcharge running from $0.02 to $0.04/kWh. So perhaps that is the cost you are looking for?

ULSD is $3.979/gallon nearby. At 20 MPG for 73,000 miles your diesel would consume $14,500 of resources. Vs my $2436.98.

 

[Gator6x4]

Regardless of whether or not EVs catch on, the writing is on the wall for big-displacement V8s, and has been for some time, especially now where a much smaller engine can put out the same or greater HP than a V8 did not all that many years ago.

That having been said, I hope ICE vehicles will continue to be readily available for many years. Not an EV hater, but really don't see any upside to them at least for my needs.

Nuclear's problems in the U.S. are strictly political, not technical. Unfortunately, the nuclear industry's arrogance and laxity towards security and safety has pretty much poisoned the well here. The Chinese government just does as it pleases without regard to what the citizenry feels.

The problem with Nuclear in the US is the US after collecting over 44 billion dollars for a Nuclear disposal the U.S. does not have the infrastructure to dispose of radioactive nuclear waste in a deep geologic repository, where it can slowly lose its radioactivity over the course of thousands of years without causing harm.

Know what happen to the 44 billion? Oh it was eased into the US General Fund.

The feds have collected more than $44 billion for a permanent nuclear waste dump — here's why we still don't have one

Climate change is renewing interest in nuclear energy, which does not emit climate-warming carbon dioxide. But what will we do with the waste?

www.cnbc.com

 

[ultrarunner]

Follow the Money and the truth is revealed...

 

[Williy]

Electric is 14 cents a kw. Not what is cost you but the cost of
producing the power you use from the electric plant

willy

 

[ultrarunner]

We already at 50 cents with taxes and fees and tiered pricing.

The hospital is 32 cents kW all in 24/7

 

[Gator6x4]

We already at 50 cents with taxes and fees and tiered pricing.

The hospital is 32 cents kW all in 24/7

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