5410 Transmission won't shift in Cold weather

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TNcowboy1

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Hi Guys,
I have a '99 5410 with a Shuttle Shift trans and 1050 hours that is giving me fits in colder weather. It will not shift out of park nor can I change ranges when it is cold. I went to move it awhile ago and even after letting it warm up and running the hydraulics and pto for twenty minutes I can't shift it out of park. This happened last year; it was fine if I came back to it later in the day after it warmed up a bit. I changed the hydraulic fluid/filter and cleaned the screen about 50 hours ago. Everything works fine when the weather is a bit warmer. Yesterday was in the 40's here in TN and it worked great.
Any ideas??
Thanks,
Micheal
 
   / 5410 Transmission won't shift in Cold weather #2  
Mine did the same thing winter before last. I changed out both the filter and fluid and it hasn't happened since. Guess I might find out this week, as cold as it will be if that was the problem.
 
   / 5410 Transmission won't shift in Cold weather #3  
Is it some old grease getting hard? Maybe something getting a bit of rust?
 
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#4  
Well, I went out today and I was able to get her in gear after I warmed her up. the weather was a little warmer. Something new; the shifter was in a slightly different position when in the Park position. It did not want to line up with the park bracket on the inside of the fender. I did not want to force it and instead re-adjusted the bracket to receive the shifter. I'll see to morrow since it is going to be colder if it cured the problem
 
   / 5410 Transmission won't shift in Cold weather #5  
spring has broken in dentball or valve is worn in park , links are not in sink to much, it will go in if I force it ?
 
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#6  
I did not want to force it for fear of busting something. It started to move today and so I ran the pto to warm things up. I was then able to move thru the gears smoothly without the least resistance. The odd thing is that this only happens in colder weather, the rest of the year- no issues whatsoever Sunday I could not get it out of park for love or money; I ran it for twenty minutes with the pto and operated the loader-nothing , but it was colder.
 
   / 5410 Transmission won't shift in Cold weather #7  
If you can, try leaving it in neutral and see if that makes any difference.
 
   / 5410 Transmission won't shift in Cold weather #8  
I wonder if you have some water in the hydraulic fluid, even though you just changed it not long ago. One way to determine if you have water is to do a "crackle test". There are a number of videos on youtube on what this is and how to do.
 
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I thought of leaving it in neutral and probably should have, but I wanted to see if the adjustment made a difference. The crackle test is brilliant. Now I have to round up a hot plate; I don't think my better half is going to want me frying up some oil samples in the kitchen :shocked:
 
   / 5410 Transmission won't shift in Cold weather #10  
My guess is you have some water in the shift mechanism that has frozen. There is a rubber boot #7around the shift lever that may be cracked and allows some water in. try heating the bottom of the shift housing#23 with a hair dryer or heat gun to see if that frees it up. If you remove the bottom cover, you should be able to dry it out.
 

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