540 pto to 1000 conversion on spader

[Sportsman762]

The Kubota M5660 has a 540E PTO as an option taking the operating engine RPM's down from 2500 to 1850 (I think). The M5660 speed at 2500 RPM is 1.6 mph so with 540E it would be 1.2 mph. The M5660 has 10.6 GPM flow on the hydraulics. If it is a 2500 PSI system then you have 15.4 hp of pto power. This is assuming that the lines going to the remotes are able to pass 10.6 GPM and that the tractor is not consuming any of the flow with steering, etc. A 120 cm Imants 27SX120R spader (I could not find your model) requires a min of 30 hp to run.

A hydraulic system that can transmit 30 hp consistently will require 20 GPM at 2500 PSI assuming now flow loss due to lines (probably have to up it to 25 gpm). You will need a tank that holds 1 gallon for every GPM and / or an oil cooler. Oil coolers are hard to keep clean in a dusty enviroment. Your tractor will have to run at 1800 RPM to produce 30 hp (56 engine, 50 pto at 2500 rpm means 6 hp loss so you need 36 engine hp to get 30 PTO)

Kubota M5660 Specs

https://www.kubotausa.com/docs/default-source/brochure-sheets/m5660.pdf?sfvrsn=6aa235a8_4

Hydraulic HP Calculator

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Imants website.

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Engine HP chart.

https://global.engine.kubota.co.jp/ja/products/product_pdf/64_pdf_1.pdf

The best option as you have stated is to use what you have.

For now I'll stick to keeping the stock set up.

 

[bmaverick]

Hello, looking for help with a possible project. We were advised to convert our spader (Imants SE115RH) with a 540 pto to a 1000 pto. Our tractor (Kubota m5660) doesn't have a creeper gear which means we are spading to fast and not getting the outcome we want. We're hoping that this conversion means we can run the tractor at a lower rpm while still getting the pto output we need to run the spader. Has anyone done this, is it possible? Also I've had no trouble finding an adapter for the pto shaft, is there an adapter out there for the driveline? Is the solution for the driveline issue to be to get a new 1000 rpm driveline and an adapter for the implement as well or is there a cheaper work around? Thanks for any input/help!

RJ Link in Rockford, IL has been making gear boxes for Ag for over 30+ years. From small machines up to the big boys.

540 gear box sped up to 1,000 from any of these.
Speed Increasers – RJ Link International, Inc.

They can even put the gear box on your implements too.
Agricultural PTO Gearboxes – RJ Link International, Inc.

They can even reverse the direction or keep it the same,

Specifications:

• Ratios in reduction or increase from 1.02:1 to 2.96:1
• Anti-Engine Rotation
• 25” Center Distance
• Variety of PTO Input and Output Shaft Configurations

Design Features:

• Cast aluminum housing
• Helical ground gears
• Tapered roller bearings
• Modular Mounting

Rj Link International Inc is the go-to solution provider for custom gearboxes. With an innovative team of engineers, sales and support staff, you can look to Rj Link International for complete design to specifications, manufacture to prints or customization of existing proprietary design.

more examples,

PLUS, tell them the Ag color you need and they will match it to your machine !

Speed increase unit example,

 

[CliffordK]

RJ Link in Rockford, IL has been making gear boxes for Ag for over 30+ years. From small machines up to the big boys.

540 gear box sped up to 1,000 from any of these.
Speed Increasers – RJ Link International, Inc.

They can even put the gear box on your implements too.
Agricultural PTO Gearboxes – RJ Link International, Inc.

They can even reverse the direction or keep it the same,
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Specifications:

• Ratios in reduction or increase from 1.02:1 to 2.96:1
• Anti-Engine Rotation
• 25” Center Distance
• Variety of PTO Input and Output Shaft Configurations

Design Features:

• Cast aluminum housing
• Helical ground gears
• Tapered roller bearings
• Modular Mounting

Rj Link International Inc is the go-to solution provider for custom gearboxes. With an innovative team of engineers, sales and support staff, you can look to Rj Link International for complete design to specifications, manufacture to prints or customization of existing proprietary design.
View attachment 846017

more examples,
View attachment 846018

PLUS, tell them the Ag color you need and they will match it to your machine !

View attachment 846019

Speed increase unit example,
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Those look pretty SWEET. I'd rather keep the RPMs down a bit, and keep the implement turning.

Plus, if I ever get the Massey Harris running, the PTO is located too high.

Any idea of the MSRP on the various models?

I'm not seeing a female PTO shaft, so mounting will be a little bit tricky.

Many of them also seem to be running with anti-rotation. That would be a big problem with a lot of implements. One might want to think about that with a tiller. Throw the dirt forward or back?

Here are two on E-Bay.

Gear Reduction Reducer Increaser RJ Link D101 VW AugerVac RockVac VacBoss | eBay

GEAR REDUCER Gearbox Reducer Increaser for Industrial Use VW AugerVac, RockVac Super Portable SuperTower, VacBoss, Christianson Conveyors and More. The input would be at the fat part of the gearbox with the output at the smaller end.

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$295 would be dirt cheap. However it is reverse rotation. 1:1.5 gearing.

GEARBOX RJ LINK RATIO 4/1 INVOLUTE SPLINE SHAFT : 20 TEETH TO 2.2 KEYED SHAFT | eBay

RJ LINK GEARBOX RATIO 4/1 INVOLUTE SPLINE SHAFT : 20 TEETH TO 2.2 KEYED SHAFT.

www.ebay.com

$1300 I assume it is a fixed configuration, and the exact configuration of that one is ambiguous.

 

[bmaverick]

Those look pretty SWEET. I'd rather keep the RPMs down a bit, and keep the implement turning.

Plus, if I ever get the Massey Harris running, the PTO is located too high.

Any idea of the MSRP on the various models?

I'm not seeing a female PTO shaft, so mounting will be a little bit tricky.

Many of them also seem to be running with anti-rotation. That would be a big problem with a lot of implements. One might want to think about that with a tiller. Throw the dirt forward or back?

Here are two on E-Bay.

Gear Reduction Reducer Increaser RJ Link D101 VW AugerVac RockVac VacBoss | eBay

GEAR REDUCER Gearbox Reducer Increaser for Industrial Use VW AugerVac, RockVac Super Portable SuperTower, VacBoss, Christianson Conveyors and More. The input would be at the fat part of the gearbox with the output at the smaller end.

www.ebay.com

$295 would be dirt cheap. However it is reverse rotation. 1:1.5 gearing.

GEARBOX RJ LINK RATIO 4/1 INVOLUTE SPLINE SHAFT : 20 TEETH TO 2.2 KEYED SHAFT | eBay

RJ LINK GEARBOX RATIO 4/1 INVOLUTE SPLINE SHAFT : 20 TEETH TO 2.2 KEYED SHAFT.

www.ebay.com

$1300 I assume it is a fixed configuration, and the exact configuration of that one is ambiguous.

The C-pad pump face in the one image is a female spline.

Yes, these can be made for parallel direction output. So no matter what direction the PTO spins, it will run in the same direction at the same speed, reduced, or increased.

Contacting RJ Link would be the best to determine what options are there for you to use.

You are 100% correct on some of the machines out there with the PTO spline output being so high up.

Also, these can mount on the implemets. I once looked at a 8Hp wood chipper with a bad engine. Taking the engine off, using an RJ Link to allow the increase of 540 to 1,008 would then make the chipper work on a tractor.