50 to 1 mix for ALL small engines... 2-stroke and 4-stroke?

[goeduck]

4mix engines do not have traditional oil lubrication. They lube only via the oil in the fuel. Some don’t like them but I do.

 

[grm61]

Why would you want a 4 stroke that burns mixed gas. You still get the hassle of mixing fuel, the added hassle of changing oil and more weight. What could be better?

The 4 mix motors do not have a sump that holds engine oil, all lubrication is from the fuel mix.
No changing oil, they are torquey, and sound like a four stroke dirt bike:thumbsup:

 

[tillers]

Several threads on the benefits of Seafoam and Stabil for minimizing fuel issues... both of which are added to fuel.

I probably go through no more than 20 gallons of two-stroke excluding the outboard which has not been in the water since the two stroke ban... but this is a topic for another discussion.

I also keep fuel in the Service Truck... so it is more exposed to temp swings and I have had issues of it going bad...

Honest... never had any carb problems for decades but do now... both 2 and 4 stroke engines... so far zero fuel injection issues.

Never realized there is a connection with pacemakers tied to two stroke equipment... is it only for hand held or does it apply to things like outboards?

>>>>outboard which has not been in the water since the two stroke ban...

2 stroke outboards are banned? where are they banned?

 

[ultrarunner]

They have been effectively banned from from California fresh water going back to the early 2000s

The requirements are pretty strict... in Lake Tahoe you can't use carburetor 2 stroke in the lake nor can you have one docked, beached or on a platform...

Some fisherman got into trouble for a having a 25 hp outboard they never used as they only used their electric trolling motor...

I would say it is a California thing but I know it applies in Nevada too.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I used nothing but ethanol free for a few years but found that if I added Stabil to the ethanol blend 87 octane, I had no problems with carb gum up. I have bought nothing but 87 octane with ethanol for the last 3 years and at fall set up, I double dose the tanks with Stabil and come spring time, everything starts and runs great. My pressure washer has always been stored with a dry tank since it is so easy to run the tank dry and it has never had a carb problem as long as I store it dry. It is now 18 years old and still cranks on the first or second pull.

 

[Tomtint]

We needed another back pack blower and went to get one last week. Most all my equipment is Echo and I have a Husky chainsaw.. figured I would try a Sthil blower with the 4" output hose.. it's about 600.00 +\- out the door....went to pay and the guy says I need to run the Sthill oil only..no TruFuel ..no Echo pre mix.. nothing but Sthil..or warranty is void... it is not worth it to me to have a special gas can just for a blower and more work than its worth. Ended up with another Echo instead. ..For the past few years at the end of the season, I have run all my 2Stroke motors dry of fuel, then filled them up with TruFuel and run it into the motors before putting them away for the winter.. past 3 years ...no spring time problems. My 4cycle motors I turn the fuel off and run them dry, then drain the bowl for any excess, then blast the intake and carb with WD40 or PB blaster or Zep.. which ever I have on hand. ..so far so good.

 

[aczlan]

We needed another back pack blower and went to get one last week. Most all my equipment is Echo and I have a Husky chainsaw.. figured I would try a Sthil blower with the 4" output hose.. it's about 600.00 +\- out the door....went to pay and the guy says I need to run the Sthill oil only..no TruFuel ..no Echo pre mix.. nothing but Sthil..or warranty is void... it is not worth it to me to have a special gas can just for a blower and more work than its worth. Ended up with another Echo instead. ..

Not only does that make no sense, but it is illegal. As I recall, Stihl will (or used to) double your warranty if you bought a six-pack of their synthetic 2-cycle oil when you bought a new Stihl. But it is against the law for them to make their warranty dependent on you buying there fuel or parts. They can deny your warranty if they can pin the failure on the aftermarket parts or bad fuel, but they can't just deny warranty coverage because you didn't buy their brand of fuel.

Aaron Z

 

[tillers]

Not only does that make no sense, but it is illegal. As I recall, Stihl will (or used to) double your warranty if you bought a six-pack of their synthetic 2-cycle oil when you bought a new Stihl. But it is against the law for them to make their warranty dependent on you buying there fuel or parts. They can deny your warranty if they can pin the failure on the aftermarket parts or bad fuel, but they can't just deny warranty coverage because you didn't buy their brand of fuel.

Aaron Z

where i live, stihl doubles the warrentee with a six pack of fuel. i don't bother with different kinds of 2 stroke fuel, just use a gallon of premium gas, stable and some decent oil and done for a while. repeat and carry on, seems to run all my 2 strokes for years.

nothing wrong with bunches of different fuels i suppose, but not for me. tooo busy.

 

[Tomtint]

Not only does that make no sense, but it is illegal. As I recall, Stihl will (or used to) double your warranty if you bought a six-pack of their synthetic 2-cycle oil when you bought a new Stihl. But it is against the law for them to make their warranty dependent on you buying there fuel or parts. They can deny your warranty if they can pin the failure on the aftermarket parts or bad fuel, but they can't just deny warranty coverage because you didn't buy their brand of fuel.

Aaron Z

Well.. that’s what their salesman is telling people.. it lost them my sale

 

[ultrarunner]

For a few years now I have been running the 16 to 1 and the 20 to 1 Brush Cutter on Stihl Ultra mixed 25 to 1

One bottle is a 50 to 1 mix in a 2 gallon jug so I use one bottle in a 1 gallon jug.

The Echo Brush Cutter is circa 1980 and the engine has never been touched... just clean the filter and spark arrestor. A few years back the tank was damaged, Echo and the Mom and Pop shops said nothing can be done... I saw a Tanaka tank at my local small engine shop and bought it... I had to say it was for my Tanaka as they wouldn't sell it to me for my Echo???

Bought the SRM 300 Brush Cutter for my Dad on Father's Day almost 40 years ago and Dad's been gone for 18 now... it came dear at over $300 on my teenage earnings... my plan is to keep it running as long as possible... it clears 5 acres of waster high weeds/grass each season that is to steep to mow...