5 ft tiller on YM2000 ?

[California]

My YM240 (US version YM2000) is 5 ft wide due to oversize tires. But a 4ft tiller is standard for a YM2000.

I've located a 5 ft Yanmar tiller complete with the special 3pt upper link components. This looks like a good deal except for the additional width of this tiller.

What do you think - will this work? Has anyone tried this?

 

[Normmm]

I use a 5' yanmar tiller on my 2020d. IN heavy soil I really need the creeper gear when tilling deep. Keep rpm at power max and control tiller speed with the pto gears. 20 pto hp seems ample for the 5' tiller.

 

[corey]

California,

Used a 54" Howard Tiller on my YM240D for many years.
It does an adequate job with max RPM, 1st gear, low range, on a garden plot.
Multiple pass over was always necessary.
Soil here in the Northern Panhandle of WV can be heavy with clay.
Soil on my property is not an exception to that.

I now run the same tiller on my JM 284LE.
It does an outstanding job on the same plot.
The slight HP difference and the creeper options in both low and standard range seems to be responsible for the difference.

A 60" tiller on the 240D would really test the tenacity of the 2 cyl. mule.
But don't you enjoy the sound of that Yanmar when it is working.


By the way, thanks again for taking time to post reply to my question on the height of your ROPS in down fold position.

corey

 

[Gizmo36]

I have a 4 ft on my 2210 , Here at the house in new ground with the hard clay it give it all it wants. Up at the farm it is good soil with sand run's easy. I could run a 5 ft up there easy , But I don't think it could pull the 5 ft here . If it did it would be hard on it.

 

[normde2001]

It may be a crapshoot. I'm pretty sure the YM2000's came with 4' tillers, however the added traction of your oversized tires may make up the needed traction.

 

[greatrandini]

I run a 6ft KK on my 2210. I can go deep in new ground using the creeper gear. The little Yanny don't even know it is back there. I can go faster if the ground has been broke or if I set the depth shallow..... Mostly I just do a few small gardens so I just sit there in creeper gear and the tiller turns the dirt to powder......

 

[California]

Ok, I'm learning a little as I read your replies. I'm beginning to scope out the extent of my ignorance!


Corey, was the 240D geared too fast in the lowest gear?

Gizmo, I think this soil is like your lighter farm soil. It's been cultivated for many years, so at least I'm not facing unturned ground.

Norm, you commented on traction. Would the tiller tend to skid the tractor forward? I'm ballasted with 160 lbs water per rear tire so traction hadn't ocurred to me.

Another question I should have asked - how much does a 5 ft Japanese tiller weigh? I will occasionally need to lift this thing in/out of the trailer like that disk (680 lbs) in my sig photos.

Thanks for any comments!

 

[normde2001]

"Norm, you commented on traction. Would the tiller tend to skid the tractor forward? I'm ballasted with 160 lbs water per rear tire so traction hadn't ocurred to me.'

Hhmm... I guess a tiller probably wouldn't cause a traction problem, would it? Some reason they came with 4' tillers, must be the weight.

 

[corey]

California,

About your question, "Is it geared too fast."

Using 1st gear in low range, my YM 240D moves at a speed that requires many passes to powder the soil.

Using 1st gear in low range, with the additional benefit of engaging the creeper gear (a feature on the JM and not on the YM) the 284LE typically turns the soil to powder in a single pass.

I do suspect that your soil condition is much different than mine.

corey

 

[Gizmo36]

My 2210 has creeper gear in it . That is what i have to use in the clay.That stuff is like a rock.

 

[Mickey_Fx]

My tiller measures about 4.5' and my tractor can handle the load without much difficulty. My garden plot has been in use for MANY yrs but all the rain in the winter compacts it considerably. Can run in 2nd or 3rd gear low range. Creeper range is not even a consideration. Soil will make all the diff in the world. Seem to remember running a tiller through the garden MANY yrs ago, with either a 4' or 5' behind a MF 165D. As deep as I was going this 50+ HP tractor was working hard.

As for weight, don't know but I did lift my tiller out of the bed of my Nissan pickup using a chain off the FEL. Almost didin't have enough lift to get over the side walls of the bed.

How much they asking for the 5' tiller and what kind of condition? My tiller was in VG condition with only a few minor cosmetic dings. Was so quiet the first time I used it I had to look to see if it was turning. Tines still had most of the original paint on them. Paid $600

 

[California]

I'm learning a little more but haven't made a decision yet.

The main thing I've learned is the correct tiller for a YM2000 is a RS1400.

The seller said his is the right one and is 4 ft, but I've read a RS1400 should be 57". (or a couple inches narrower with aftermarket tines at the outer edges). I think that's close enough to my tire width of 60".

He wants $550 for the RS1400, or $600 for his next larger one. I need to go and see if his '4 ft' tiller is really a RS1400 at 57". Condition of both tillers looked like 20 yr old good used stuff, not 'reconditioned', very little rust, normal abrasion and dents.

 

[HGM]

Mine is the RS1400 and a quick measurement before the rain came tells me its 62".. I use it with whatever gear I can get away with.. If its realld hard, 1L would be my choice.. I will typicaly run previously tilled ground in 3L or 2H. If there are allot of rocks or a stump I couldnt see, the tiller will push the tractor.. I look at it as a plus, since its not breaking anything and lets me know I've hit something.. It is a freaky feeling though.. I think its the perfect size because I can get it wherever the tractor can go(nearly, just a bit wider).. I believe the tractor can easily handle the larger size though if you dont need the narrow size..

 

[Mickey_Fx]

The number in the model desigination denotes the tiller width in mm's. Where one meaures the width will affect what number we come up with. 1400mm = 55.16"

 

[HGM]

The number in the model desigination denotes the tiller width in mm's. Where one meaures the width will affect what number we come up with. 1400mm = 55.16"

Thats a good point, my measurement was for the outside of the gearboxes.. Thats the measurement I'm most concerned with.. As for the tine area, the 55.16" makes sense.. The tiller will fluff the tracks of the tractor w/o a problem though, and my tires are flipped..