4310 E-hydro seems spongy?

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dieselram

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I just bought a used '02 4310 with 475 hrs. I came from a hydro L2800 Kubota and it seemed to react faster than the Deere. I can mash the pedal all the way to the floor before it will start to move. It seems like a delayed reaction and I have the switch set on short stop. I realize that those pedals are controling electronics but is this what Deeres answer to a smoother hydro or is there something wrong with mine? All you E- hydro owners chime in here because I need to know what this is supposed to "feel" like.
 
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That is adjustable on my 3520 e-hydro. "Short" can be adjusted from 1 to 5 and "long"can be adjusted from 5 to 9, with the lower numbers giving quicker/firmer reactions. Sorry, I can't quote the procedure but it should be in your manual. As I recall: there is a momentary switch on the dash that allows you to scroll through the display. Scroll until the one you want to adust is displayed and then use the turn signal switch to change up or down.
 
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My '03 4310 responds pretty much right away. I never have to stomp it all the way down. If you have the Motion Match switch set to slow/lond acceleration that can cause the unit to perform the way you are describing. The Motion Match switch is the second switch from the left of the second bank of switches.

I hope this helps
 
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John_in_TN said:
That is adjustable on my 3520 e-hydro. "Short" can be adjusted from 1 to 5 and "long"can be adjusted from 5 to 9, with the lower numbers giving quicker/firmer reactions. Sorry, I can't quote the procedure but it should be in your manual. As I recall: there is a momentary switch on the dash that allows you to scroll through the display. Scroll until the one you want to adust is displayed and then use the turn signal switch to change up or down.

I don't believe it is the same on the 4410/4310/4410 models, it apparently changed on the 3x20 series - sounds like it is way more adjustable. Good input though, now when my 3320 Cab shows up I won't have to review that part of the manual.
 
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My only experiece with the e-hydro is with my 3520, but I thought maybe the others had similar adjustments. Those cab models are really nice! I know you will enjoy that.
 
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I don't think mine has motion match. It has all the other switches but that one.
 
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I just tried it again and the is a delay in the hydro pedal. It takes 2 seconds to go from forward to reverse when switching pedals from forward to reverse. It just does not have the feel to it. It seems to work fine moving but there is something that does not feel right. It also seems to coast a bit more than it shoud even with the switch to short stop. Am I smoking crack or what, it is like no other hydro I have ever been on? I am also in the wrong forum!
 
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The Loadmatch switch is beside the steering column. I turn it off unless I'm are at or near wide open throttle. It will give you a spongy feeling if left on at lower rpms.

Typically, I leave mine in range "B" unless I need to go down the road or pull something tough to pull then I move to C or A.

Also, I'd probably change the filters and fluid so you know exactly what you have in it. Not cheap, but far cheaper than a new tranny.
 
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John_in_TN said:
My only experiece with the e-hydro is with my 3520, but I thought maybe the others had similar adjustments. Those cab models are really nice! I know you will enjoy that.

Thanks John, I also thought about going for a 3520, but I am on a budget and if I go for the turbo, the boss has to get something big too!, and I would have to wait for two attachments instead of one:eek: I also read somewhere that the 3520/3720 turbos are louder than the 3320? Is it really that noticeable?
 
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Kyle_in_Tex said:
The Loadmatch switch is beside the steering column. I turn it off unless I'm are at or near wide open throttle. It will give you a spongy feeling if left on at lower rpms.

Typically, I leave mine in range "B" unless I need to go down the road or pull something tough to pull then I move to C or A.

Also, I'd probably change the filters and fluid so you know exactly what you have in it. Not cheap, but far cheaper than a new tranny.

If you DIY, then you can get the filters on eBay for a good proice.
 
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dieselram said:
I don't think mine has motion match. It has all the other switches but that one.
D-Ram, dunno if the '02 is different in that aspect than the '03, I thought they would be the same. Can you send us a pic of your switches (on fender panel, and the instrument panel near the steering wheel)
 
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Kyle_in_Tex said:
The Loadmatch switch is beside the steering column. I turn it off unless I'm are at or near wide open throttle. It will give you a spongy feeling if left on at lower rpms.

Typically, I leave mine in range "B" unless I need to go down the road or pull something tough to pull then I move to C or A.

Also, I'd probably change the filters and fluid so you know exactly what you have in it. Not cheap, but far cheaper than a new tranny.

You know Kyle, you may have a point there, I thought it was the motion mattch that gave me that symptom but I might have also changed the Load Match switch too.
 
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The book says the suction side filter and the dealer tells me there are potentiometers (may not be spelled right) that read the pedal position.
 
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I was just at the dealer and drove a 4410 with the hydro and it did the same as mine!
 
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Nuru said:
Thanks John, I also thought about going for a 3520, but I am on a budget and if I go for the turbo, the boss has to get something big too!, and I would have to wait for two attachments instead of one:eek: I also read somewhere that the 3520/3720 turbos are louder than the 3320? Is it really that noticeable?
I had a very basic 4200, gear trans, with a 72" mmm. Reached a point where I no longer needed the mower, but wanted a loader.
Went looking for a used similar sized tractor w/loader. Found several candidates, but the 3520 clearly presented the best condition/value combination and also had more power and features than anything else in the group.
The 4200 is the only similar siized model that I have any acutal experience with. At light loads the 3520 is louder, but not objectionable to me. The strange thing is that under moderate to heavy loads the 3520 is extremely smooth and quite. I have been told that is because of the turbo, but I don't really know. It was actually quite errie the first few times I experienced it. With a brushhog mower just cutting grass, as you hit that certain load all the sound seems to move from in front of you to behind you because suddenly you only hear the mower, not the engine. I am very happy with the 3520 but think I would have been equally happy with a 3320. I suspect there is little real world performance difference unless you need the maximum pto hp.
 
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John_in_TN said:
I had a very basic 4200, gear trans, with a 72" mmm. Reached a point where I no longer needed the mower, but wanted a loader.
Went looking for a used similar sized tractor w/loader. Found several candidates, but the 3520 clearly presented the best condition/value combination and also had more power and features than anything else in the group.
The 4200 is the only similar siized model that I have any acutal experience with. At light loads the 3520 is louder, but not objectionable to me. The strange thing is that under moderate to heavy loads the 3520 is extremely smooth and quite. I have been told that is because of the turbo, but I don't really know. It was actually quite errie the first few times I experienced it. With a brushhog mower just cutting grass, as you hit that certain load all the sound seems to move from in front of you to behind you because suddenly you only hear the mower, not the engine. I am very happy with the 3520 but think I would have been equally happy with a 3320. I suspect there is little real world performance difference unless you need the maximum pto hp.

Thanks John, i asked about the 3520, and they wanted 2k more (1k and i would have done it though! LOL!):rolleyes: and that would eliminate me getting one of the implements I want right now. So, sofar I am sticking with the 3320, which everyone claims is the quietest of the bunch over all power ranges.:)
 
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Nuru said:
Thanks John, i asked about the 3520, and they wanted 2k more (1k and i would have done it though! LOL!):rolleyes: and that would eliminate me getting one of the implements I want right now. So, sofar I am sticking with the 3320, which everyone claims is the quietest of the bunch over all power ranges.:)

Well when it came time to pull the trigger, I went with the 3520 Deluxe Cab/300CX/small R4s/Mid-PTO (just incase I want a snow blower later - doubtful), and I decided to try out a inexpensive flail mower from BETST. under $1k for a 68" cutting width, so I thought I try it out. I am gonna keep my Turf Special R3s and send my regualr R3s with the 4310.

I will get the front mounted blade later.

I figured if I ever needed the extra power, I would have it:D
 

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