4110,4x4,49 Hp

[DGrassSr]

Having issues with the old tranmission,i was backing up and the thing popped out of gear,with a loud noise.tried to put it back in gear and it froze up like it was going into two gears at the same time.
I took off the plate on the side and lined up the gears,when going forward it made all kind of noise clicking and jerking.I thought it was a couple teeth broke off in the tranmission.
I pulled the motor apart from the tranmission,it looks like the clutch is gone, very thin.I turned the tranmission shaft and it feels fine no noise that i can hear.has anyone else had this kind of trouble before?
Going to replace clutch, through out bearing,anything else you can think off.pilot bearing look and feels fine.this OLD 66 year Country Boy can use all the help i can get,See Ya

 

[SPYDERLK]

You may have a worn clutch but it soundslike a transmission problem in addition. Is there a cover you can take off to look inside the tranny while the tractor is split? A shift fork may be broken or bent and if two gears engaged at the same time somethings gotta give.
larry

 

[SPYDERLK]

How many hours? Youve got a worn clutch but it sounds as if theres a transmission problem as well. Is there a cover you can take off to look inside the tranny while the tractor is split? You may have a bent or broken shift fork. If two gears were engaged at the same time somethings gotta give.
larry

 

[DGrassSr]

Thanks Larry for trying to help me,I took it all apart and your right the clutch is gone.Going to replace everything inside,Oh i turned the main shaft several times on the tranny and it turns very smooth.I donot here any noise and there is no resistance when turning the shaft.(maybe the clutch was the problem not letting it go into gear all the way}
This old dog has a ton of hours on it, no guage for hours,around 2004 model there is no plate i can take off to look at the tranny.The main book shows a cover plate that covers the intire floor and the bolts are flat on top and spot welded to the deck. i can cut a hole in the floor with a tourch and weld it back,,i cannot feel any plate on top of the tranmission.There may be one,it sure would be nice to look inside the box. I pulled the shifting arm back out of the tranmission and it looks fine just wore a little at the forks but not bent.
Larry, if the tranmission turns smooth do you think its ok,i don't mind working on this old dog,but don't want to break it apart again if i do't need to,Thanks for your help.

 

[SPYDERLK]

I think if the clutch was affecting the trans you would get a grind as you put it in gear. You didnt say anything about that. The popping and jerking when moving sounds tranny internal. --- but, what does the clutch spline and mating trans input spline look like? Could that spline be slipping?
larry

 

[DGrassSr]

Larry, the splines look to be just fine not worn down that i can see,i did'nt say anything about it because they looked OK ? The only time i heard the popping and jerking was when it first jumped out of gear and i tried to move it.
I eased it back to the barn and took it apart and saw the clutch was gone,i guess i'll just half to take a chance on the trans and hope it's not that.Thanks for all your help,its always nice to talk to someone that dosen't charge $85.00 a hour,See Ya..

 

[LAWALLSTRACTOR]

Can you get the rear half setting completely on stands? If you can, try to turn the transmission in all gears, forward and reverse gears, and make sure every thing turns smoothly through the transmission to the rear wheels. Try to keep one wheel stopped and then the other to make sure the differential is ok.

 

[DGrassSr]

Thanks Galen,my son stoped buy today a we were looking at the clutch,presser plate etc.We turned the jack skaft and it would trun smoothly,but he said just what you said, to get the tires off the ground and them put it in gear and see what happens.I didnot thing about that,Jamie said the noise was in the trans,not around the clutch and bellhousiing.
Brother, i don't know what going on with this old tractor,i'll try to get the back half off the ground somehow and do just what you said .You guys are a life saver,because i'll flying blind when it comes to the tranmission.Thanks for all you help,i sure do appricate it,Ole Country Boy from Tx, See Ya..

 

[DGrassSr]

Hi Galen,i jacked up the the back section of the tractor and turned the right tire and you right on,the noise is in theTranmission Mid case,what a mess.Thanks for the tip,now the work begains,See Ya..

 

[DGrassSr]

Galen,i finally got to the tranmission,i tried to seperate the two.Having a problem getting the two trannys apart ? They only came apart about 2" and thats it,looks like the 4 wheel drive shaft on the bottom of the trans got it in a bind.Any tricks to get them seperated, are do i need to remove both all the way back to the rear end ??? Thanks