2550 broken hood mounts

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dronning

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Anyone seen this before, my 76 year old mother was mowing the lawn when the back of the hood just popped up. All the mounts had broken and the hinge (shock assisted) lifted the back of the hood. The front was still latched.

Less than 10hrs on the mower

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Dave
 
/ 2550 broken hood mounts #2  
Haven't seen that one before. But there's a known problem with the hood, latch, and possibly even the hinges that could be the culprit. I just haven't heard of it failing quite like that before. In any case, the dealer will fix it. With that few hours I'd make sure he picks it up and drops it off for free too.
 
/ 2550 broken hood mounts #3  
It almost looks like it was pushed too far back at some point, or the hinge mechanism jammed while it was being closed.

What the heck though, that's what warranties are for right? :) I'd have the dealer come get it and fix it.
 
/ 2550 broken hood mounts #4  
Hmmm.... Are you sure Mom didn't hit something?

-Larry
 
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Nope no damage and she would fess up if she did. I wonder if it had ever been hit before we took delivery?

The ground is rough in spots I think it just shook loose. Several of the hinge mounting points looked like they may have had the inserts spun when installed. That means only a couple were actually holding the hood in place and there is enough tension from the hinge lift assist on the remaining ones, that were broken in the pic, just failed due to the pressure.

I know the dealer will take care of these issues but the whole reason I bought the 2550 was so she wouldn't have these kind of problems - hope this is the end of it.

Dave
 
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dronning said:
... but the whole reason I bought the 2550 was so she wouldn't have these kind of problems...
Your problem is unique, as far as I can tell. It's certainly not a design failure. Could have been a problem during shipping, dealer prep, dealer delivery, etc. etc.

Like JS said, that's what warranties are for. Don't lose any sleep over it.
 
/ 2550 broken hood mounts #7  
PS: The Cub 50" decks are known to occasionally explode with the equivalent force of a 5 megaton thermonuclear device. Seems to have something to do with mowing on a Tuesday. Other than that, the 2550's are great.
 
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Dronning,

The damage to your hood is identical to what happended to my new GT2554 after 11 hours of operation.

I disagree with CCinCT that "Your problem is unique, as far as I can tell. It's certainly not a design failure"

In my opinion the whole hood is getting too hot causing the anchor points to crack and fail under operation. Upon closer inspection of the damaged hood, I even noticed the screw hole holding the wires for the headlights had also cracked.

I think the problem is related to the new redesigned hood and heat shield. If you search for "2550 melting hood" folks are discussing other hood failures as well.

I installed the new hood and drove the tractor for about 10 minutes without load. The hood was hot as ****. After it cooled, I removed the top vent cover and the front grill and headlight assembly. I'm going to run the tractor this was for a while and see if it runs cooler.

I'm really disappointed with the new hood design and I expect it to break again.

Don't blame Momma! What you you folks think?

Dave in DurhamNC
 
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What do I think? Plastic hoods suck and should not be used on lawn and garden tractors that get hot and bounce and bang around a lot. I have a metal hood on my 682, 26 years old and not a single crack or melt in it. Scratches are superficial, and the occasional metal rattle does not bother me. When someone spends upwards of $3000 for a garden tractor, I think they expect a little bit better than cracked and melted plastic.

-Fordlords-
 
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If it had been a heat-related failure, you'd see some deformation. But because his picture doesn't show any melted or deformed plastic, I believe its a stress failure.

In my opinion, the main shortcoming of the current plastic hood is reduced access to the engine bay when compared to the older metal 3-piece design. I don't care for the 3-piece design much, except for how the top folds forward and away to provide unhindered access to the engine bay. It seems to me that the current hood could be front mounted in such a way to mimic that older feature. The problem would be in stopping it's forward travel at some point in a way that didn't load the hinge too much.

The current "automotive" style hood access has no actual value, other than to look kinda cool to bystanders that haven't had the pleasure of working under one.
 
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Having worked with a lot of molded plastic parts I agree this is a stress failure. But why?

I notice Cub is using self tapping screws to hold the hood onto the hinge assembly. It's not the best way and most that use molded parts won't do it on any assembly that's stressed. The screws put too much stress on the boss they screw into, or alternately can't provide sufficient clamping force unless the hole size and assembly torque is exactly right. And if wrong you can get thread stripping, or cracks in the boss like we're seeing here. Either way the assembly will fail.

Even when you get everything right the overall assembly isn't as strong as one that uses a threaded insert and machine screw. Too much stress, too many ways to put it together wrong with a thread cutter.

In the case of the these failures though it's hard to tell specifically what happened.

Hinge was moved too far at some point, or moved with some of the fasteners loose or missing? Improper assembly of the hinge? Poor molding of the hood and hinge attachment area? Hood material losing some of its mechanical properties because of elevated temperatures? It doesn't matter though does it? All of these things point back to Cub since it's highly unlikely 2 posters caused an identical problem on 2 different tractors. It also makes it less likely it's just a fluke or random occurrence.

I think we all know the "advantage" this hood assembly provides and why it was done. The $$ advantage to Cub. ;) I still think it's possible to make one that works just fine. I wonder, do we hear JD and Kubota owners complaining about theirs? I wonder too how much of that money Cub saved will in turn fall into the pit of warranty claims. Not to mention the long term cost of customer dissatisfaction.

What Cub does about all the hood issues will tell a lot. If they fix these things promptly and modify the product to eliminate these problems in the future I say good on them. If not, and they adopt the automakers technique of starting to deny warranty claims to cut warranty costs, then I say good luck to them. There's bunch of people in Detroit and elsewhere that can tell them how that'll work out in the end...
 
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Fordlords said:
What do I think? Plastic hoods suck and should not be used on lawn and garden tractors that get hot and bounce and bang around a lot. I have a metal hood on my 682, 26 years old and not a single crack or melt in it. Scratches are superficial, and the occasional metal rattle does not bother me. When someone spends upwards of $3000 for a garden tractor, I think they expect a little bit better than cracked and melted plastic.

-Fordlords-

But if it lasts 26 years you won't buy a new one. You'll just rebuild the engine or install a new one. Then you'll keep on using it... ;)
 
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JSharp said:
I think we all know the "advantage" this hood assembly provides and why it was done. The $$ advantage to Cub. ;)

And to JD, Kubota, Simplicity... all of whom use plastic hoods in at least one line of tractor. And none of them are particularly impressive either, in my opinion.
 
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CCinCT said:
And to JD, Kubota, Simplicity... all of whom use plastic hoods in at least one line of tractor. And none of them are particularly impressive either, in my opinion.

I know almost everyone uses plastic now. I've never really studied how they do it though. As I said before, I wonder if the other brands have seen these kinds of issues too.

Problem is I think, by the time you're done using a plastic part and doing it right, it may not be all that much cheaper than the old way. And knowing how to use plastic parts correctly is a diffrerent world. It's really easy to do it wrong...
 
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The only other brands' plastic hood that I've seen up close and person is on a JD LX175? Not sure that's the model number, but it's close to that. Anyway, it was a 1999 or 2000 model year lawn tractor with a plastic hood that hinged in the lower front, right above the bumper. The hood was broken at the hinge points from the owner running into something. I didn't see any inserts, but then I wasn't really looking for them either. I will say that the fit of the hood was tighter than our Cubs. But then the whole engine area was shrouded by that hood per design, so that would make sense. Point being, Cub should take a few pointers from JD in that regard: they made a front hinged plastic hood that controlled airflow better, and kept more dirt and debris out of the engine compartment.
 

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