2310 HST Capacity Question

[jaybrad]

Continuing on with my 50 hr service, I trained the rear axle/hst oil, changed the transmission filter, and cleaned the transmission intake screen.

Then I started refilling the hydraulic oil. The manual says 2.9 gallons, and I have now put in close to 4 gallons, but it is still not showing up in the little level site glass.

I did start it - no leaks anywhere, the tractor and FEL both move, but still nothing showing up.

Any hints from someone who has also done this service?

Thanks,
Jay

 

[Gilford]

I do not have experience with the 2310, but I have a MF 1533, and the amount of hydraulic fluid the manual told me I would need was considerably less than what I had to put in when I changed the fluid. I found a lot of mistakes in the manual, so I cannot always rely on it.

 

[jaybrad]

I do not have experience with the 2310, but I have a MF 1533, and the amount of hydraulic fluid the manual told me I would need was considerably less than what I had to put in when I changed the fluid. I found a lot of mistakes in the manual, so I cannot always rely on it.

After I put in ~ 3 gallons, I started the tractor to check for leaks, and there were none. Then I tried to lift the bucket, but that was a no go.

So I put in a couple of extra quarts and did the same thing. The bucket worked; and tractor moved just fine.

I'm probably only a couple quarts (maybe a little more) over what the book says - and am thinking that maybe the new oil (AMSOIL) is so clear that I just cannot see it in the site glass.

....proving once again that it's the simple things that will cause me the most problems....

Jay

 

[tx2310]

You have over filled. It is hard to to see the new oil but you can tell the difference if you get it in to the sight glass, then you can tell the slight difference.

Doug

 

[jaybrad]

Yeah. That's what I thought.

I called the service manager at the dealership and he said the same thing, but he also said that an extra couple of quarts would not be harmful since I often have an FEL and BH on board.

It will be a messy PITA to drain off a couple quarts, but since it will bug me otherwise, that's likely what I'll do. The dealership said they usually but in a bit of ATF to color the oil so they can see it.

What do others do - and would the collective drain off a couple quarts, or just leave it?

Jay
(just having another fun day of learning about the tractor while it rains outside.... )

 

[tx2310]

Find a ditch, drive in front first(make sure it is one you can back out of), go to the back and look at the sight glass. You should see what it looks like when it is low.

Doug

 

[jaybrad]

Find a ditch, drive in front first(make sure it is one you can back out of), go to the back and look at the sight glass. You should see what it looks like when it is low.

Doug

I tried that and could not see a difference.

Maybe I need a steeper ditch - or maybe it is really so full that it doesn't make any difference.

I think I'll try to find a clean container that can hold a gallon or so, then have someone else slowly pour oil back in to see if I can notice a change.

What about the idea to add some ATF oil for coloring? Sounds like an interesting tip if it doesn't compromise the HST oil.

Jay

 

[tx2310]

Another way is to disconnect a hose from a cyl., start the tractor set at idle and move the valve slowly that controls that hose and you will drain off the fluid. This can be very dangerous but no different then a cut hose. Only a thought do at your own risk.

Doug

 

[jaybrad]

Another way is to disconnect a hose from a cyl., start the tractor set at idle and move the valve slowly that controls that hose and you will drain off the fluid. This can be very dangerous but no different then a cut hose. Only a thought do at your own risk.

Doug

Given how far the oil went when I snapped a line on the FEL, I think I'd rather take my chances lying on my back with the drain plug in my hand.

I've done this in the past when working on a car (don't ask ), and it's either a minor mess ... or a major mess.

Place your bets.....

Jay

 

[tx2310]

You could try pulling it from the top with a hose down the fill tube it is thin oil unlike motor oil.

Doug

 

[jaybrad]

You could try pulling it from the top with a hose down the fill tube it is thin oil unlike motor oil.

Doug

I tried that (~ 1/2" OD tubing) and I could not get it far enough down in to get into the oil itself. I was also concerned that if I forced it, it would get caught on something inside and with my luck I'd wind up with a major service call. I think I'd rather take my chances on getting my hands messy.

I have lots of that orange hand cleaner and paper towels on hand....

Jay

 

[Rob2310]

If you really don't want to remove the drain plug, you might use a suction gun and suck it out. My old 2310 would be easy, but the new 2610 has a small rubber tube that extends the hydraulic oil fill upwards and the curves in it might make feeding the tube difficult.

 

[jaybrad]

I was able to suction out about 2 quarts and then took it to a steep incline and when I parked it on the hill, I could see the difference.

I then backed out stopping and checking frequently so that I could get an idea about how overfull it is.

I'd guess it is over by less than a quart, so I think I'll be OK.

I'm also going to put a note into the owner's manual so that 2-3 years from now when I have to do this again, I will remember to be more careful when refilling.

Jay