2210 vs 4010, viva la difference?

[megotatractor]

what the difference other than tire size and HP? I had to buy the 2210 for garage door clearance and hill stability. But i've heard that the two tractors are identical other than tire size. Do they also have the same engine? the 4010 rated at 18 and the 2210 at 22hp could that be wheel hp? that would mean that the one with smaller tires would naturally have a higher wheel HP rating.

 

[RalphVa]

I think the engine in the 2210 is probably the one in the 4210 and probably what's in the X595. It's a huge amount of hp in such a small machine. Lots of people want hp. It sells. Doubt very few of them actually use it. Think you'd have to run a 6' bush hog in high grass to use it. A 6' bush hog is too heavy for its 1400 # weight.

I looked at both the 2210 and 4010 as well as a BX 1830 and B7510. Bought the 4010 with 410 loader and LX4 cutter. I've now a soil ripper that originally was used on an 18 (wheel) hp JD M.

Don't think I'll ever be lacking for hp. I've had a 12 hp Gravely for 3 years. It never runs short of power to drive its 30" bush hog/mulching mower deck. It'll also pull a cart with up to 1,000 pounds in it up a slight grade, not hp-limited: limited by grip with quad wheels. Some Gravely owners run them with 50" mowing decks, which they were offered with.

The basic differences between the 2210 and 4010 are the following:

o About 4 to 5" more ground clearance on the 4010. This will probably translate into this much more lift height on the 3 pt. I'm trying to get figures on this. Don't think the soil ripper would work on the 2210 because of reduced lift height.
o Cruise control on the 4010 vs. a drink holder on the 2210.
o The 2210 has a positioner for a MMM. The 4010 doesn't.
o Dual brakes on the 4010. These are desirable when pushing snow with the FEL, as well as turning more sharply at the end of garden rows.
o The 4010 top-of-ROPS is 1" SHORTER than the 2210 with turf tires on both.
o The turf tires on the 4010 are (speced) 1/2" wider. They look even wider. Tried out both the 2210 and 4010 stopping and restarting (backing up) on a steep hill. The 4010 did it no problem. The 2210 wouldn't move. Tried 3 times to make sure I had it in 4wd. Still not sure I ever got it in.

I'm glad that I got the 4010. It was the smallest CUT that advertised full Cat. 1 capability. It seems pretty strong in both the 3ph and FEL hydraulics.

Ralph

 

[RalphVa]

Found out on the owner forum.

The 2210 and 4010 draft arms both lift to 24" at the ends of the arms.

The 2210 lift weight is 700 #. The 4010 is 870 #.

The hydraulics and draft arms appear almost identical on these. It's kinda remarkable that they actually are a bit different, particularly in the heft.

Ralph

 

[JDFANATIC]

yada, yada , if I was looking for a sub-CUT, then that is one thing, but if I were looking at a small/mid frame tractor, and not taking anything away from the 4010, then I would be looking at other machines within the series. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[megotatractor]

I would beg to differ that the 2210 is overpowered. I have worked that engine hard on several occasions, mowing heavy grass, roto tilling, dozing dirt and snow. I have made er smoke and have seen the tach drop significant rpms. I've lugged her to the point of almost stalling pushing dirt, even in low range. I wouldn't mind if she had a turbo. .. Am I crazy? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Model...Engine.................Hp..............Weight
2210....Yanmar 3TNE74....23 @ 3000......1400....3TNE74....23 @ 3000......1400
4010....Yanmar 3TNE68....18.5 @ 3000...1420....3TNE68....18.5 @ 3000...1420
4110....Yanmar 3TNE74....20 @ 2650......1517....3TNE74....20 @ 2650......1517
4115....Yanmar 3TNE78A..24 @ 2650......1771....3TNE78A..24 @ 2650......1771
4210....Yanmar 3TNE82A..28 @ 2600......2675....3TNE82A..28 @ 2600......2675
4310....Yanmar 3TNE84....32 @ 2600......2900....3TNE84....32 @ 2600......2900
4410....Yanmar 3TNE88....35 @ 2600......2900

The 2210 is the weight of a 4010, power of a 4110, in lower ground clearance. It is designed as a great mowing machine with great tractor options, where the 4xx0s are set as great little tractors that mow well.

[edit] sorry about the weird "links" the forum software decided that hp specs are email addresses...

 

[MSP15]

The big differences I've been told are:
-4010 has an oil cooler vs. fan cooling the hydro. this can make a big difference in longevity of the hydro
-4010 has cruise control
-4010 has turning brakes
-4010 has higher lifting capcities front and rear
-4010 has a slightly heavier frame
-4010 has bigger tires and more ground clearance
-4010 has folding ROPs option vs. fixed only on 2210
-4010 has full cat. 1 hitch vs. limited on 2210
-2210 has more horse power (23 vs. 18)
-2210 uses X series mower deck w/ position control

Those are the differences the dealer I talked to listed for me. Both seem like great tractors to me, guess it depends on what you are doing.

 

[megotatractor]

Okay, I made an error. The 2210 has the same engine as the 4110, STILL I am wondering why the same engine is rated at 23 hp in the 2210 and 20 hp in the 4110?? same engine.