2025R will not crank
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'Twas the battery. Would not go this morning.
Managed to get the nut off the positive cable and removed the negative cable from the tractor frame. Took battery to our favorite Central Battery place here. The battery in it was a Central Battery. I do not remember changing it. Wife says we did. No record in my book. I recorded this one.
Kid got the nut off the negative cable and sold me a new nut for it and bolt and nut for the positive cable. $120.
You do not want to have to replace the positive cable. It's one of those "tie a string to one end and use string to pull new cable between 2 frame piece between battery and starter solenoid"
Negative is easy to remove.
Managed to get the nut off the positive cable and removed the negative cable from the tractor frame. Took battery to our favorite Central Battery place here. The battery in it was a Central Battery. I do not remember changing it. Wife says we did. No record in my book. I recorded this one.
Kid got the nut off the negative cable and sold me a new nut for it and bolt and nut for the positive cable. $120.
You do not want to have to replace the positive cable. It's one of those "tie a string to one end and use string to pull new cable between 2 frame piece between battery and starter solenoid"
Negative is easy to remove.
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Welllll! It was NOT the battery. Same symptoms this morning: panel lights and glow plug light comes on with a click. Turn ignition switch to start. NOTHING.
Have called New Va Tractor service. They will pick it up tomorrow. I'm supposed to go out in a couple hours and see if it'll start after some more warming up. This is what it had been doing before and after battery replacement.
Ralph
Have called New Va Tractor service. They will pick it up tomorrow. I'm supposed to go out in a couple hours and see if it'll start after some more warming up. This is what it had been doing before and after battery replacement.
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JD service guy asked me to try it later. Did. Panel would not even light up. Checked battery voltage: 3.7. Took out and back to battery place. They say 11 volts falling to 4 volts with a load. Battery good. Could be a short?
Brought battery back and put in place with positive cable only and on battery charger. No spark if I put negative cable up to the post.
JD will pick it up tomorrow. Should start if negative cable put on. Won't have to winch it onto the trailer.
Ralph
Brought battery back and put in place with positive cable only and on battery charger. No spark if I put negative cable up to the post.
JD will pick it up tomorrow. Should start if negative cable put on. Won't have to winch it onto the trailer.
Ralph
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Went to visit our tractor at Virginia Tractor to talk to the technician. It's both the starter relay and ignition switch parts they're waiting for. Not sure of the mechanism re how both got "burned". Said the switch had a significant amount of corrosion. Corresponds with the unusual amount of corrosion on the battery posts before I replaced it.
Technician has vowed that he'll find the parts and get it back to me next Friday.
Ralph
Technician has vowed that he'll find the parts and get it back to me next Friday.
Ralph
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JD says they'll deliver my tractor back on Wednesday. Bill is over $800 (incl. $120 pickup and dropoff) for neutral switch, ignition switch and starter relay.
The starter relay apparently had a slight short in it that caused the ignition switch to go bad. Caused a lot of corrosion on the switch and on the battery terminals when I replaced the battery before getting them involved. Not really sure that the neutral switch was bad.
Ralph
The starter relay apparently had a slight short in it that caused the ignition switch to go bad. Caused a lot of corrosion on the switch and on the battery terminals when I replaced the battery before getting them involved. Not really sure that the neutral switch was bad.
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Got the tractor back, but they evidently raised the ROPS to get it out of their heads' way while working and forgot to put it back down. I bashed the carriage house gutter and wood behind it.
I'll have to put a note on it next time that if they raised it, please lower it before delivery.
My HF quick hitch is not so quick on the bush hog either. Top hook is a real pain to get right.
I'll have to put a note on it next time that if they raised it, please lower it before delivery.
My HF quick hitch is not so quick on the bush hog either. Top hook is a real pain to get right.
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Dam HF quick hitch is a problem with the bush hog. Cannot seem to be able to put the top hook in place and get it to "hook" and then allow the bottom pins to settle in. Have to get in place and then reattach the top hook, PITA.
Ordered a shorter top link from Agri Supply. Needed one to go down to 15 inches using my top link U adaptor that adds another 8 inches. Can then latch onto the bottom pins and then put the top pin on the bush hog onto the end of the U adaptor when I get off to put the PTO on. Had to use the U adaptor on by back blade, too.
Ordered a shorter top link from Agri Supply. Needed one to go down to 15 inches using my top link U adaptor that adds another 8 inches. Can then latch onto the bottom pins and then put the top pin on the bush hog onto the end of the U adaptor when I get off to put the PTO on. Had to use the U adaptor on by back blade, too.
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Post a pic of your brush hog, and could possibly offer you a suggestion around the "U" adaptor problem.
