2021 Chevy Silverado 2500HD gas vs. diesel?

[coobie]

But I have junk fords too.

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[coobie]

And 1 junk GM product.

 

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Tony



I drive a Cummins

 

[coobie]

Fix
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MOPAR "Move over people are racing"

 

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MOPAR "Move over people are racing"

I'm older than dirt. I remember, first hand/real time, when Ford was trying to buy Ferrari. I grew up in the 60's when we had seriously bad-azz engines. And lots of hospital bills. Enzo insulted Junior so Ford went racing in Europe. It's a true story and more dramatic than the movie. I remember one kid swearing to heaven that the new Toronado would shift weight rear to front from a standing start. (don't know why I thought of that)

Words can not describe the humiliating butt-kicking Ford put on those arrogant, golf-cap wearing, champagne-sipping euro-weenies. They sent Mericedes, BMW, Jaguar, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche.... All of them, home talking to themselves. 'Cobra' and 'GT40' became household words. It got so bad that one year, FIA shut down the season because Ford was gonna win it all again.

I also remember when Ford was virtually unstoppable on the Formula 1 scene. In fact, Ford still has the record for percentage of races won vs entered. They won every single race two seasons in a row.... Maybe a little more; or less (not gonna look it up)

Ford did very well in Indy Racing (Cosworth) then gm jumped in and got CART booted so they could run only their (aurora) engines. Only way they could ever win a race anyway. They put Infiniti in there, too so it wouldn't look totally like a hijacking. Which it was. I lost interest in it. Lost interest in NASCAR when gm went out there racing and was in debt to the American People for BILLIONS of dollars.

I was watching a racing channel one day and gm shows up at the Nurburgring with three 'vettes, 50 crew including a half-dozen engineers, 4 professional race drivers and gets the course shut down for them. After they open it back up an Accountant from Frankfurt shows up with a Ford GT and blows their doors off.

So I'm a Ford guy. Sort of.

I'm not brand loyal anymore. Went to buy a new, aluminum-bodied Sooper Duty and the guy ticked me off so bad that I went and bought a Ram with a Cummins in it.

No regrets at all. None.

Daimler did Chrysler dirty. All they wanted was a way to buy Detroit Diesel. gm was running them into the ground (what didn't they run into the ground) and Mercedes wanted them. But some kind of weird US law stopped them, so they bought Chrysler and shortly after they got Detroit Diesel, they dropped them like a bad habit. Fiat has been good to Chrysler from what I can see

Forgive the rant.

 

[Hay Dude]

I’m looking into buying an F350.

I like diesel, but my concern is out-of-warranty repair costs. Just bothers me knowing that at any moment you could have a $5000 repair bill to replace the injectors.

Reminds me of a chat I had with a guy who owned a big diesel box truck. He said he keeps $10K set aside just for diesel repairs.

I’ll likely go with the 7.3L gasser. Plenty of million mile gassers out there. I don’t see any difference in durability between gas and diesel.

Thanks Tractorable, I needed something to help me laugh myself to sleep again tonight.
Stick a big block gas motor in a tandem axle dump and tell me if it holds up as well as a Cat or Cummins diesel. I mean a gas motor outlasting a diesel with both given equal use and care is actually laughable!
I guess I could try to explain to you that commercial and heavy use truck, farm tractors, etc. have diesel, not gas engines in them because they’re more durable than gas, but if that’s the way you think.....it would be a waste of my time. Lol

I got to hand to some of you, you keep the entertainment here at a high level of absurdity. Its cute, but absurd.
Never read so much disinformation and poor information in my life.

Keep it comin!

 

[Hay Dude]

I guess they should just call them a Fiat and get it over with!! lol

SR

It ain’t Fiat anymore. It now called Stellantis. A merger of FIAT and French auto Groupe PSA.
I could care less, as long as the the quality is good, and it is VERY good so far.....
So far, FIAT, Stellantis, or whoever owns RAM now has made all the right moves. The quality is much better. I’ll put my Ram against anything out there, even a Ford Ecoboost
Its got a Cummins and an Aisin transmission and will drag anything around you hook to it about 10 times easier than the Ford it replaced.
I have friends that drive OTR for a living and aside from PACCAR, the Mexican built trucks are favored over the ones built in the states. The factories are newer and the lower govt regulations allow the manufacturer to build them better.

 

[W7XYZ]

MOPAR "Move over people are racing"

I always thought it was More Old Parts And Repairs!

 

[MossRoad]

I’m looking into buying an F350.

I like diesel, but my concern is out-of-warranty repair costs. Just bothers me knowing that at any moment you could have a $5000 repair bill to replace the injectors.

Reminds me of a chat I had with a guy who owned a big diesel box truck. He said he keeps $10K set aside just for diesel repairs.

I’ll likely go with the 7.3L gasser. Plenty of million mile gassers out there. I don’t see any difference in durability between gas and diesel.

Ouch! That caused eye damage. I don't like diesels, have no use for them, think too many people have them for show VS work, blah blah blah, but even I know that million mile gas pickup trucks are few and rare.

 

[nikerret]

I mean a gas motor outlasting a diesel with both given equal use and care is actually laughable!
I guess I could try to explain to you that commercial and heavy use truck, farm tractors, etc. have diesel, not gas engines in them because they’re more durable than gas, but if that’s the way you think.....it would be a waste of my time. Lol

A lot of that depends on it’s use. I would love to have the money to buy several trucks set up the same, but with different engines. I bet I could set the tests up to force a winner I wanted.

If I want the gas engine to win, I design a series of tests where the truck is started, driven two miles, turned off until cold, then repeated, hundreds of miles, at a time. Diesel just doesn’t do well, in that situation.

If I wanted the diesel to win, the truck would not be turned off until it had been driven at least 30 miles, every time it was started.

I live in a small municipality. When I take my son to school, it’s two miles, each way. This isn’t enough time to even get the oil to optimal operating temperature. Often, I drive around, extra, just to get everything cleaned out.

I use my truck commercially. Probably half my jobs are less than ten miles, total, for a day. However, I do pull a trailer. It’s over 5k, empty, and around 15k, loaded. When I do have jobs a ways away, the diesel would be fine, better even, but too many of my trips are less than five miles, total, to make diesel a good choice, for me.

The drawbacks of a gas pulling 15k are less than the drawbacks of having a diesel that rarely gets to optimal operating temperature.