1643 Lift capacity

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browny

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I have 5 tons of wood pellets be delivered next week and was wondering if I would be able to lift a pallet off the of the truck. Each pallet will weigh 2,000 pounds(50-40#bags/pallet) I will be doing this with QA pallet forks. I have a DL120 loader for my 1643. I don't want to over do it with the tractor. Should I take 10 bags off of each pallet? What do you guys think? I think the loader book says 1900# capacity and then it gets into details of pivot, height, etc and I really don't know what all that stuff means.
 
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I made a fire pit with some big rocks that they said we're around 2000 pounds. I could get under them to move them but not get any height, maybe 5 to 6 inches. But the forks should be alot lighter than the bucket. Wish they would have made the loaders a little stronger. Its the only thing I don't like about my tractor.
 
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If I take 10 bags off of each pallet, then the weight would be 1,600 pounds. The truck bed will be about 4 feet high. I hope I will be able to lift 1,600 pounds from the truck.
 
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I have 5 tons of wood pellets be delivered next week and was wondering if I would be able to lift a pallet off the of the truck. Each pallet will weigh 2,000 pounds(50-40#bags/pallet) I will be doing this with QA pallet forks. I have a DL120 loader for my 1643. I don't want to over do it with the tractor. Should I take 10 bags off of each pallet? What do you guys think? I think the loader book says 1900# capacity and then it gets into details of pivot, height, etc and I really don't know what all that stuff means.

The front axle is rated for something along the lines of 3,800 pounds TOTAL. Taking a few bags off of each pallet would be a good idea, and a safe one.
 
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I have 5 tons of wood pellets be delivered next week and was wondering if I would be able to lift a pallet off the of the truck. Each pallet will weigh 2,000 pounds(50-40#bags/pallet) I will be doing this with QA pallet forks. I have a DL120 loader for my 1643. I don't want to over do it with the tractor. Should I take 10 bags off of each pallet? What do you guys think? I think the loader book says 1900# capacity and then it gets into details of pivot, height, etc and I really don't know what all that stuff means.

I would go for it. If your loader won't pick it straight up you can always tip the pallet forks down while raising the loader to get the back of the pallet 6-8" off the truck and then curl the forks to lift the front of the pallet. We lifted a 3000 pound pallet of wood pellets this way with our M7040 (it will lift ~2600lbs to full height) It wouldn't pick it straight up but lifting the back and then curling the forks to lift the front of the pallet worked.

One thing to make sure you have is enough ballest on the back when you do it. It looks like your brush hog weighs a little over 600 pounds and with it sticking out a long way behind the tractor I think it would be enough counter weight. (As I think about it I think I would set 4 or 5 bags of the pellets on the brush hog just to make sure you have enought weight.)

I think you would have no problem picking them up if you chose to take some of the bags off first. You could also just take off 4 or 5 bags. That would be less work but it would still make the pallets 200 pounds lighter.

Ed
 
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You could try it without removing anything, and if the relief goes off, remove some bags until the relief stops squealing . Tilting the bucket up some will give you some advantage. If the tractor is bouncy, remove some bags and place on the back attachment.
 
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Thanks guys. I will go for it next week. WillBos, thanks for the heads up on the front axle load rating, that never crossed my mind. I was more concerned about blowing a hydraulic hose/cylinder. I was also planning on putting my brush hog or tiller for ballast and my rear tires are loaded also so that is a plus. Good tip on tilting the forks up, that should work a lot better than trying to pick the pallet straight up first.
 
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Well, the pellets came yesterday. I had to take 15 bags off of each pallet, 35 bags/pallet was all the tractor could lift. I would have figured the tractor would have at least picked up 40 bags/pallet. I was a little disappointed. On a positive note the tractor was not bouncy at all lifting the 35 bags/pallet. I sure wish the hydraulics were a little stronger for a tractor like this.
 
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Well, the pellets came yesterday. I had to take 15 bags off of each pallet, 35 bags/pallet was all the tractor could lift. I would have figured the tractor would have at least picked up 40 bags/pallet. I was a little disappointed. On a positive note the tractor was not bouncy at all lifting the 35 bags/pallet. I sure wish the hydraulics were a little stronger for a tractor like this.


What does a bag weigh?? And what does the skid weigh??
 
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Your loader lift capacity is around 1314 lbs.

You would have to have remove 600 lbs, which amounted to 15 bags @40 lbs

Here are the loader specs.

If all the weight was on the pins, you could lift about 1900 lbs.

If you know the pump specs, check the PRV relief pressure, and see if it is about 50 psi below the pump pressure. A 100 psi difference will add 314 lbs of lifting power to each cyl.



Loader:
Loader type: Massey Ferguson DL120
Height (to pin): 102 inches [259 cm]
Dump angle: 47
Rollback angle: 30
Breakout force (bucket): 1,841 lbs [835 kg]
Lift to full height (at pin): 1,900 lbs [861 kg]
Lift to full height (at 500mm): 1,314 lbs [596 kg]
 
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You should have nothing to complain about:thumbsup:

Your tractor is rated for 1314lbs @ 500mm forward. What THAT means: your tractor is rated to lift that much, 500mm (19.7") forward of where the pin attaches the forks to the loader arm.

Since you have a QA, that deducts weight and also shifts it more forward. The center of your load was probabally in the 25" forward range, and you were still able to lift more than 100lbs OVER the rated capacity.

Nothing to be disappointed about at all.

As big as out CUT's look, for their size they are light. And they arent ment to be forklifts.

We have a forklift where I work that is pretty small. size wise, it would probabally fit in the bed of a P/u. Yet is has more lift capacity than 100+HP tractor loaders.
 

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