15 series height

jwcinpk · Apr 13, 2008

I'm considering buying a small tractor for cleaning out my poultry houses. The main thing that comes into play is height. Could some of you dealers give me a height measurement with the rops folded down on the 15 series HST's? I would want industrial tires. I'm trying to decide between these and a skid steer. I know the skid steer would probably be better in the houses, but the small tractor would get more overall use. We only cleanout once a year. I'd also like to get a backhoe with this one. Either the Mahindra/Bradco or a Woods Groundbreaker. Still comparing those.
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wallace · Apr 13, 2008

The rollbar folds down flat the back of the seat is actually higer than the roll bar folded.
So the operator will be the tallest point on the tractor.
I would be more than happy to take a measurement for you where would you like me to measure for you?
Also any perticular hp?

jwcinpk · Apr 13, 2008

I'm particularly wanting a leftover 3015 HST with the biggest Woods hoe I can put on it safely. I'd use the tractor without the hoe in the poultry house cleanouts and then could do some small backhoe work on the side. Turning really isn't an issue. The houses are 40 feet wide so there is plenty of room to turn. I geuss I want a measurement to the top of the seat. I didn't realize the rops folded flat. I just assumed they were like the 6000. Also could I get a measurement to the top of the rops with it up.
I geuss I would consider the 2015 HST and bigger. I want as big as I can get, but stay small in height.

lfarrar · Apr 13, 2008

I have a 2015 with AG tires and I was surprised that I could get in my garage without having to fold the ROP down and has a few inches to spare(nice). Sorry I do not have actual numbers as it is at the other house. I will be there next weekend if you still need a number I could check. I am sure a dealer on here has access to measuring one sooner than that. The specs on the tractor really do not give hieght specs.
Lou

DavesTractor · Apr 13, 2008

jwcinpk said:
I'm particularly wanting a leftover 3015 HST with the biggest Woods hoe I can put on it safely. I'd use the tractor without the hoe in the poultry house cleanouts and then could do some small backhoe work on the side. Turning really isn't an issue. The houses are 40 feet wide so there is plenty of room to turn. I geuss I want a measurement to the top of the seat. I didn't realize the rops folded flat. I just assumed they were like the 6000. Also could I get a measurement to the top of the rops with it up.
I geuss I would consider the 2015 HST and bigger. I want as big as I can get, but stay small in height.

If a dealer still has a 3015 on his lot, he's had it for a very long time. I think we sold our last one over two years ago. They are nice machines, basically a 2615 with more HP. Some early 3015s were non-turbo, later ones were turbo. I get frustrated if something sits on my lot for 90 days, how can a dealer hold a tractor for c couple of years?

The 3710 backhoe works very well. I'd stay with the Mahindra setup, although by all accounts the Woods backhoe is an excellent unit.

Height isn't an issue as the ROPS folds down to fender level.

jwcinpk · Apr 13, 2008

I know there are a few out there and obviously dealers would want to move them. That means a good deal usually. Actually my dealer had one a couple trips back. That's probably been 6 months ago, but maybe it's still there. It was a turbo model because I looked under the hood and remember seeing it.

driver444 · Apr 13, 2008

As far as the backhoe, The only bradco I ever used was on a New Holland, and it worked great, but I did opt for a B-70X Groundbreaker on my Mahindra2015. I went with the Woods because I always had good luck with their stuff, and I love the curved boom. I think the price was $6600 including the bucket, (16 inch) PTO pump, and 8% New York Governor Female Companionship Tax. It comes in handy when you're trying to dig really deep, and really close to the back of the tractor, as the boom kinda goes over the top of the dirt edge instead of layin on it, if that makes any sense. Also, Bro-Tek makes a really cool thumb for it. I just got mine. I think the B-80X has an optional hydraulic thumb available. No complaints about it at all.

I'm not sure what size you could handle with a 30HP Mahindra. The B-80X may work, but I think size-wise, the B-70X would be a good match-up. The B-70X almost looks a little big on my 2015, but it handles it with no problem.

driver444 · Apr 13, 2008

OH, And while I don't have an exact measurment, (cuz I'm not home right now) I can tell you that my 2015 fits in my garage with a 7 foot door, and has an inch or 2 to spare. (ROPS up)

jwcinpk · Apr 13, 2008

driver444 said:
As far as the backhoe, The only bradco I ever used was on a New Holland, and it worked great, but I did opt for a B-70X Groundbreaker on my Mahindra2015. I went with the Woods because I always had good luck with their stuff, and I love the curved boom. I think the price was $6600 including the bucket, (16 inch) PTO pump, and 8% New York Governor Female Companionship Tax. It comes in handy when you're trying to dig really deep, and really close to the back of the tractor, as the boom kinda goes over the top of the dirt edge instead of layin on it, if that makes any sense. Also, Bro-Tek makes a really cool thumb for it. I just got mine. I think the B-80X has an optional hydraulic thumb available. No complaints about it at all.

I'm not sure what size you could handle with a 30HP Mahindra. The B-80X may work, but I think size-wise, the B-70X would be a good match-up. The B-70X almost looks a little big on my 2015, but it handles it with no problem.

The digging force is higher on the Woods Groundbreakers than the Bradco and they have a curved boom, 36 inch bucket, and a thumb. Just makes sense to me. I think the 3015 would handle the B-80X.

jwcinpk · Apr 13, 2008

DavesTractor said:
If a dealer still has a 3015 on his lot, he's had it for a very long time. I think we sold our last one over two years ago. They are nice machines, basically a 2615 with more HP. Some early 3015s were non-turbo, later ones were turbo. I get frustrated if something sits on my lot for 90 days, how can a dealer hold a tractor for c couple of years?

The 3710 backhoe works very well. I'd stay with the Mahindra setup, although by all accounts the Woods backhoe is an excellent unit.

Height isn't an issue as the ROPS folds down to fender level.

What would your reasoning be for going with the Bradco? Have you compared the 2 units specs?

driver444 · Apr 13, 2008

I think the big deal with putting a Mahindra Hoe on a Mahindra tractor is, if nothing else, a warranty issue. That's the same with all tractor brands. They all threaten that if you use another brand attachment, the warranty will be voided. They want you to use their stuff. It makes sense.

As far as the warranty, Here's my logic. The tractor is warranteed for (I think) 2 years. The Hoe is warranteed for one or two years. The only repairs that would not be covered are repairs to the tractor that can be proven to be as a direct result of the Hoe. Obviously, if your guage cluster, or front axle, or hydrostatic unit, or anything else were to need repair, I believe that would still be covered, as it would be unrelated to the Backhoe.

Not only that, but if you read the posts of all the Mahindra dealers on TBN, you'll find that almost NONE (literally) have had to do any warranty repairs on 15 series Mahindras. They are bombproof. And after the warranty period is up, you're on your own anyway, right?

I'm not saying "don't buy the Mahindra unit." I'm just saying put the warranty thing into perspective.

LAWALLSTRACTOR · Apr 13, 2008

Joel,
The 3710 backhoe that fits the 3015 is manufactured by KMW not Bradco. The main reason I have always sold the Mahindra hoe is because the low rate financing applies to it. I have priced out other hoes on the Mahindra, but when the low rate financing is figured in on the deal, the customer always chooses the Mahindra hoe.

jwcinpk · Apr 14, 2008

LAWALLSTRACTOR said:
Joel,
The 3710 backhoe that fits the 3015 is manufactured by KMW not Bradco. The main reason I have always sold the Mahindra hoe is because the low rate financing applies to it. I have priced out other hoes on the Mahindra, but when the low rate financing is figured in on the deal, the customer always chooses the Mahindra hoe.

How much money would we be talking difference in the 2 hoes? I'd pay an extra couple grand for the curved boom and extra digging force.
I'm not saying that anything is wrong with the Mahindra units I just think the curved boom would be an asset in tight places such as graveyards.

jwcinpk · Apr 14, 2008

driver444 said:
I think the big deal with putting a Mahindra Hoe on a Mahindra tractor is, if nothing else, a warranty issue. That's the same with all tractor brands. They all threaten that if you use another brand attachment, the warranty will be voided. They want you to use their stuff. It makes sense.

As far as the warranty, Here's my logic. The tractor is warranteed for (I think) 2 years. The Hoe is warranteed for one or two years. The only repairs that would not be covered are repairs to the tractor that can be proven to be as a direct result of the Hoe. Obviously, if your guage cluster, or front axle, or hydrostatic unit, or anything else were to need repair, I believe that would still be covered, as it would be unrelated to the Backhoe.

Not only that, but if you read the posts of all the Mahindra dealers on TBN, you'll find that almost NONE (literally) have had to do any warranty repairs on 15 series Mahindras. They are bombproof. And after the warranty period is up, you're on your own anyway, right?

I'm not saying "don't buy the Mahindra unit." I'm just saying put the warranty thing into perspective.

I get the warranty thing. Not that I agree with it, but I get it. The top thing on my list would be to buy from a Mahindra dealer who will warranty the unit as a whole. Best case would be to buy from a Woods and Mahindra dealer! I don't forsee problems, but you never know.

LAWALLSTRACTOR · Apr 14, 2008

jwcinpk said:
How much money would we be talking difference in the 2 hoes? I'd pay an extra couple grand for the curved boom and extra digging force.
I'm not saying that anything is wrong with the Mahindra units I just think the curved boom would be an asset in tight places such as graveyards.

It wouldn't be that much difference in price. The main difference is the payments, because the Woods backhoe wouldn't have the Mahindra low rate financing. I would price it both ways, compare and make your decision. Good luck with it.

DavesTractor · Apr 14, 2008

jwcinpk said:
What would your reasoning be for going with the Bradco? Have you compared the 2 units specs?

1. Integrity of warranty. It probably would not become an issue as the Woods also has a sub-frame, but the 3710 from KMW (none of the 15 series backhoes are Bradco) is designed specifically for the 15 series with input from Mitsubishi.
2. I have not compared the units. I have heard nothing but positive things about the Woods unit, so I am not disparaging them in any way. I like the looks and features of the curved boom.
3. Financing options.

wallace · Apr 14, 2008

Coming from a Woods and a Mahindra dealer...
The Woods backhoe was hung on the 15 series long before the KMW backhoe and loaders were.
When the 15 series wore a yellow and white paint job Woods was the OEM for those tractors..
I am a firm beleiver in the Woods hoe.
Woods also states and it is posted in my show room that if their backhoe creates an issue with the tractor it will not only fix the tractor but it will also extend the tractor warranty for one full year from the date of the fix.

MtnViewRanch · Apr 14, 2008

Sounds to me that if you want to make it easy, have Wallace ship you what you want.

DavesTractor · Apr 14, 2008

wallace said:
Coming from a Woods and a Mahindra dealer...
The Woods backhoe was hung on the 15 series long before the KMW backhoe and loaders were.
When the 15 series wore a yellow and white paint job Woods was the OEM for those tractors..
I am a firm beleiver in the Woods hoe.
Woods also states and it is posted in my show room that if their backhoe creates an issue with the tractor it will not only fix the tractor but it will also extend the tractor warranty for one full year from the date of the fix.

Sounds like Woods has the potential warranty issues solved, thanks for the education Rick.