1/2 hour - homemade tree spade

[wolc123]

I just took about 1/2 hour to drill a few holes in a piece of 12" x 3" channel-iron and mount it to the 400X loader, heavy-duty bucket on my JD 4120. The section is about 30" long and bolts to the bottom center of the bucket using (2) 1/2" bolts into the existing toothbar holes on the front edge, and I drilled another 7/16 hole thru the bottom of the bucket, 6" back for a 3/8" bolt to hold the back in place. It gives me a 12" wide by 20" long shovel, centered on my 6 ft wide bucket. I was easily able to dig a nice hole and go pop a 8 ft blue spruce out of the ground and move to the new location, even though the ground was very hard and dry. The heavy 4wd tractor makes easy work of pushing that little 12" shovel into the ground. I have about 20 more to move but am going to wait untill it gets a little colder and the ground gets a little wetter this fall before I do the rest. The tree I moved today was just to prove it would work. As easy as it pushed that shovel into the hard ground today, it will be like butter in a few weeks when it softens up some more. Sure beats the heck out of digging holes and digging the trees out with a shovel, and many times cheaper than a real tree spade. It is also great not to have to man-handle those prickely spruce trees. The heavy-duty bucket handles the center load of the little shovel very well with no signs of bending at all.

 

[Speedfreak]

It sounds nice but we need pictures to prove it works as described... LOL

 

[tglass]

Like Speedfreak said, it sounds good and would also like to see pictures or a basic drawing with dementions. I'de like to have one and it sounds like it could be made from scraps I have laying around.

 

[/pine]

post proof (pictures) or retract

 

[k0ua]

I also would be very interested in your project. I have thought about building something like that, but a look at yours would be great.
James K0UA

 

[wolc123]

I have to apologize to you folks from Missouri, as I lack both the know-how and the equipment to post pictures. We have had several inches of rain here in upstate NY over the last week so the ground moisture content is much better than it was a week ago. I just finished moving (10) more 5-10 ft tall blue spruce about 1500 feet and it took me under (2) hours. I take 3-4 scoops with the spade to make a hole then go fetch a tree. I wrap a chain around the trunk so I dont loose it during high-speed transport. Now that the ground has softened up, pushing that little 12" wide spade with my Super-Sized CUT is like pushing a hot knife into a stick of butter. It is mounted on center, and held to the bottom of the bucket with (2) 1/2" bolts across the front (using the tooth-bar holes - I dont have one of them) and a single 3/8" at the rear center (drilled a hole thru bucket here). It sticks out 20" from the front, and overlaps 10" under the bucket. The flat side is against the bucket and the ribs are down. The channel is fairly heavy, made from 1/2" thick steel with 3" wide ribs. The smaller trees were no problem at all, but for some of the larger ones, a pretty big root-ball came up with them when I raised and tilted the scoop, making me thankfull for my loaded rear tires and heavy blade on the 3-point. I am sure glad I didnt waste any money on a "real" tree spade (a nieghbor had one out by the road for sale), or a backhoe. I am also thankfull that 5 years ago, when I got my 4120, I opted for the heavy-duty bucket on the 400X loader. I am fairly sure that this operation would have bent the standerd light-duty bucket. I have also been able to move and load some very heavy logs by simply bolting a couple pieces of heavy angle iron to the bottom of this bucket, which I mounted with a 1/2" bolt in a tooth bar hole that lined up with the loader arms, and drilled (2) more 7/16" holes in the bucket for a second 3/8" bolt (again, saved dollars on a seperate fork attachment). This too, would never be possible with the stock, light-duty bucket. To you skepics, no big deal if you dont believe me, as the economy could use some stimulation in the form of tree-spade and backhoe sales and manufacture. Also, I would not recommend these money saving ideas unless you have a heavy-duty bucket. I am sure glad to have the rest of the week to do fun things now that I dont have to move all them trees with a shovel and ball-cart.

 

[magicheater]

Are you telling us that you made one of these yourself? Well done! Pictures would help. One thing to note on the video is to look at the size tractor it is mounted on and do the math!
I bet you are glad you have the 400X loader and not the 400CX version. Self leveling in an other than plain lifting mode is IMHO a waste of money.

 

[wolc123]

That fella obviously has way more than 1/2 hour in his. With a heavy-duty, JD-green loader bucket, that extra cross-braceing is not needed. You are right that the 400CX would not work as well for this, but it probably would work better with the forks. I also made some wood extensions to mount on my forks that I use to lift the cap on and off my pickup. Self-leveling would be very nice for that.

 

[77bronco]

Looking at that video, a piece of 12" dia. schedule 80 pipe would be about the right size to make a spade.

 

[wolc123]

That would work, attached like in the video, but the channel iron, bolted up to the bottom of the bucket, is simpilar and takes less time to construct. There is really no need for the "scoop" shape, as the channel with the sides on the down-side works very well.

 

[rocknrod]

I wonder where you buy one of those bucket buddy's?
The web site i found was not operational.
Nice tool.
Great idea.

 

[tglass]

Don't know where you see the video, but wish wolc123 had a picture or drawing on this. Sounds easy to make like alot of things, but some of us, or me never thought of an easy, and cheap way to do it. Alot of times it's easier for me to buy something that i'de like to make if only if I knew how.

 

[J_J]

Quick Spade Combo - Paumco; Quick Spade, Grader Kit, Bucket Grapple - Tools for Outdoor Recreation, Farming, Landscaping

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[tglass]

J.J.
from what I've seen from past posts I have a feeling you have an idea of how to make one of these cheap and easy from parts left laying around. Someone give me some info on steel size etc,.

 

[J_J]

I have made them out of bladder type water tank. You could cut the shape out of 1/4 in steel, and put it over two 4 x 4, and drive over it, and it will bend a little. After you have started the bend, put a chain around the bent steel and tighten the chain to bend it to the shape you want to weld to the back plate, as in these pictures.

You can go to a steel mill with your drawing, and they can cut and bend it to the shape your want, and then weld to the back plate.

 

[tglass]

J.J., now I understand and that gives me a few ideas. Thanks for the pictures.

 

[J_J]

This setup would be great for different size plants/trees.

 

[wolc123]

I have another long row of 10 ft blue spruce that I planted a little too close years ago (about 10 ft apart). They are almost growing into each other and I was thinking of cutting every other one. Next fall they will probably be 12 ft or better but after seeing how well my home-made scoop / 400x loader worked on the smaller trees this fall, I think it will be up to the task, and I will transplant instead. Those smaller ones that I transplanted earlier (start of this post), are doing real good and are holding up well without even needing to be staked thanks to the big dirt ball that curled up with each "scoop". I will probably need to add more ballast to the rear of the tractor with the bigger trees. No more time for playing with this tool this fall as it is hunting season now. Sorry again for the lack of pictures, but I gave all the dimensions of the scoop in earlier posts

 

[treemen]

You better spend your time trying to keep that one tree alive before you move anymore.I can tell you from a lot of experience that with that size of root ball and with the tearing of roots with that type of apparatus ,a spruce tree over 2 feet in height will probably not survive.Sorry to rain on your parade but give that tree 6 months and see how it is doing.

 

[J_J]

The post above are from year 2010.