Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days!

   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #361  
I think this is the reason that many Americans think an inline 6 is so much sturdier than a V8: GM Oldsmobile 88 5.7 diesel, the 6.5, Cummins V8 diesels, were all low budget high rpm engines, often sleeveless.

Ford could have picked the Navistar DT360 instead of the which is very similar to the BTA5.9... GM rebadged International DT466 too as Detroit series 40..

Those v8 diesels were junk but no v8 diesel in the American market last to a million miles like 6 cylinder diesels do. And I agree Ford messed up bad not setting a DT360 at 300hp and 600 torque and putting it in a pickup in place of a powerjoke disaster of the time.
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #362  
Today you pay a hundred grand for something that can't make it past 5 years without a failure.

My Silverado didn't even cost half of a hundred grand and it's 7 years old, without failure...

SR
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #363  
Today you pay a hundred grand for something that can't make it past 5 years without a failure.

My Silverado didn't even cost half of a hundred grand and it's 7 years old, without failure...

SR
I wish that I could say that about my Colorado...
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #365  
Being here, we've haven't had much besides Cummins (< not complaining) for I6 diesels, that I can recall.....(meaning light-vehicles).

Just the other night, @ work, I ended up having a long chat with a guy I don't normally talk with much... conversation kicked off about old I6 gas engines. His Dad had rebuilt their Ford I6 a couple of times, had close to 1MM miles on the car, before finally retiring it. Same engine, well liked in light trucks back when, at least for farm use. Once it was EPA'd out of vehicles, Ford kept building for industrial markets, for quite a while.

Can't keep an inherently good design down..... not sure about the current Supra, but Toyota often used an I6 as a higher-end engine. Mazda seems to have an I6 offering today... (checking, OK, it's a hybrid.... well, it is 2025....)...... and Ram is now using turbo-gas I6 engines in their pickups......

Olde, meet New....

Rgds, D.
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #366  
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Any one know where a fellow could get a bed like this to fit a Toyota Tacoma 3rd gen?
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #368  
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #369  
That reminds me. I've always thought that Jeep must be kicking themselves in the rear for stopping production of full-sized trucks when they did. Just as the market for big trucks was exploding, they stopped. If they would have kept building the Gladiator they would have sold millions.

I'm not saying anything about the merits of the truck, I know nothing about their quality or performance abilities, but just the fact that they had the Jeep name and styling would have had people standing in line when the big truck market exploded.
 
   / Just can't get a good basic truck, like the old days! #370  
Yeah, its sort of insane. My local county just had a fleet vehicle auction. One item of interest was a 2011 Ford Ranger, Automatic, 4WD, 4 liter 6. 104,000 miles. Starting bid, $6,500. Dent in the driver door and the interior was trashed. Sold as is, where is. I stopped bidding at 9K. It went for $11,500. This is a truck, you could not take to a shop to check out. "Where is, as is." No warranty, no return. Hummm.... Who, in their right mind, would buy this at $11,500? Or, do I just live in some fantastic land of my own imagination.
 
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