PTO operating while off the tractor

[nyone]

A farm worker is injured or killed about twice per week, so there is some benefit to them.

That dosnt mean it's the operator or it could be from a rollover. Some common sence is needed.

 

[WM75Guy]

Mine works on my WM75. You must be sitting in the seat, PTO engaged. All three gear levers must be in neutral and the parking brake set. Push the button, you will see the PTO indicator change to a grey box background. You can then exit the seat and the PTO will stay engaged. When you sit back down the PTO indicator will go back to normal operation. Get out of the seat again and the tractor will die.

 

[RayIN]

A farm worker is injured or killed about twice per week, so there is some benefit to them.

IMO most of those are a lack of attention and hurrying to get the job done. I do know farming is one of the most dangerous occupations, but taking shortcuts has it's dangers.
Climbing into a silo without the correct equipment and helpers is one of the most common cause of deaths, yet the correct procedures have been widely advertised for decades. Dismounting a tractor with the PTO running is the same way, all it takes is to snag clothing on the spinning shaft and a person loses a limb or life. Now I've done that many times, however I stay away from the PTO shaft, baler flywheel, pickup tines and other moving parts while moving deliberately.
Personal safety is_well_ personal. No-one should care more about your safety than you.

 

[rockinbbar]

Mine works on my WM75. You must be sitting in the seat, PTO engaged. All three gear levers must be in neutral and the parking brake set. Push the button, you will see the PTO indicator change to a grey box background. You can then exit the seat and the PTO will stay engaged. When you sit back down the PTO indicator will go back to normal operation. Get out of the seat again and the tractor will die.

That's exactly how the kill override button works on my Powerstar tractors.

And from what I understand, it doesn't keep running indefinitely, as it has a time limit. Not tested the time limit, but that's what I was told.

 

[HarvestHorizons]

You're not alone the PTO run feature on the newer Workmasters can be a little confusing at first. On your 2023 Workmaster 75, that small button on the dash is indeed key to keeping the PTO engaged when you're off the seat.

Here’s the general sequence:

Start the tractor and engage the PTO using the lever beside the seat like you normally do.

Before leaving the seat, press and hold that small PTO button on the dash until the PTO light starts flashing (usually takes about 5 seconds).

Once the light is flashing, you can safely get off the tractor and the PTO will continue to run.

This is a stationary PTO feature, meant for use when you're off the tractor but the machine is stationary like when checking a baler or running a grain auger. If you try to move the tractor or do anything else while off the seat, it’ll kick the PTO off.

If the light doesn’t flash or the PTO shuts off when you stand up, check that your seat switch is working properly — if the tractor thinks you’re off the seat prematurely, it won’t let the sequence complete.

Hope that helps!

 

[OldPaint]

All these safety switches; society assumes we must be protected from ourselves. The people making these decisions likely have never farmed or been on one.

The people making the decisions are protecting their companies from liability lawsuits. They really don’t care about your experience level or confidence or whether you kill yourself with their tractor. They just need to be able to be on the witness stand and say their machine met mandated OPE standards when it was shipped. If their switch malfunctions in a dangerous way, they’re liable. Fail safe operation is always finicky and contrary, no matter what it’s used for. If you disable it, your survivors get jack diddly when the machine kills you.

Personally, having had a rollover that pinned me under a 400 pound running mower such that I couldn’t reach the key taught me a valuable lesson. All it took was slightly wetter soil along the edge of a ditch to make the mower slide off the edge and I was upside down before I could blink. I still remember that sound of blades spinning upside down. I make sure the safeties work on all my machines now. That mower has long since been retired and replaced with a newer model with more safeties. I check all of them annually. Replaced the seat and had to reuse the existing seat switch. New seat is much firmer than the original, so I had to use a bit of ingenuity to make it work. Bottom line, I was not going to run the mower without knowing it would shut down if needed. That experience is not one I wish to repeat. I was somehow uninjured save a few scratches, bruises and strained muscles, despite the mower pinning me underneath. It took some serious strength to get it off me. Fortunately there was no water in the ditch after a heavy rain the previous day. I could easily have drowned. Biggest injury was my ego thinking I didn’t need a seat safety. I don’t think that now. Not advising nor criticizing anyone’s opinion, just relating a very scary experience.

I have a Kubota LX2610SU-HST. If I want the PTO enabled with me on the ground, I park the tractor, select Neutral, set the brake lock, raise the front with the FEL, then shut the engine down to set up the chipper. Aint no way I’m putting my hands anywhere near that chipper with the tractor running until I have every safety in place and checked. Then I start the tractor standing next to it on the RH side at arm length so I can get away if it thinks about moving. All I have to do is push the off-tractor bypass button for 5 seconds. When it illuminates, I walk around to the left side and engage the PTO, again at arm length away. Bob’s yer uncle. Set PTO speed and go to work. If there’s any possibility of the tractor moving, the bypass will not come on and the tractor will shut down if the pto is engaged. If I forget and leave the pto engaged when I shut down again, it will not start.

 

[arrow]

All these safety switches; society assumes we must be protected from ourselves. The people making these decisions likely have never farmed or been on one.

Not it.
The ppl making these decisions, are more concentrative on litigation and has nothing to do with the concern of safety.
Anyway of mitigating the aspect of factory “negligence”, governs this mindset.

 

[Bobrown14]

All these safety switches; society assumes we must be protected from ourselves. The people making these decisions likely have never farmed or been on one.

Yeah and my pop was a pediatrician in farm country. Most deaths or limbs cut off happened to kids on tractors. Safety 1 2 3 I wouldn't defeat safety switches. They are there for a reason. People to dumb ****. I have a cab tractor and a long driveway. I was driving down my driveway with a speed bump at 20mph and forgot about the speed bump. Had I not had a cab I would have been ejected and my tractor would have landed in the woods. The PTO engaged while your not in the seat .... yeah thats not a thing and why there's a safety switch so you cant do that. What implement do we use that requires the operator to not be seated??

 

[oldtimer 66]

My John Deere compact 4320 has 2 settings for the PTO's. Mid and Rear combined and then Rear only. In the Rear only setting I can set the parking brake and then dismount the tractor with the Rear PTO engaged. I use this setting for running my PTO driven wood splitter. With the Mid and Rear engaged the seat switch shuts off the PTO's. aka using MMM. Just some info.

 

[Jstpssng]

What implement do we use that requires the operator to not be seated??

In my case, the logging winch and backhoe. Formerly also a wood splitter, hopefully a wood chipper in the future.
Yet as I mentioned before, I disabled my seat switch because I got tired of it shutting the tractor down every time I turn in the seat to watch the mower, tiller, plow or disc harrow.