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    Favorite farm life sayings

    Working from dark to dark thirty. Up with the chickens. Stubborn as a mule. Flying off the handle. Make hay while the sun shines. Like closing the barn door after the horse got out. Too wet to ploy. Walked to school uphill both ways with a potato in my pocket. Like finding a birds nest on the...
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    Irrigation pump

    It will be almost impossible to prime without a working foot/check valve. A small leak in the suction line can also cause a lose of prime. Make sure the suction line and pump case are full, the blue valve is open, and water can easily go somewhere before starting the pump.
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    Unfortunately, finding a good pump man has become difficult if not impossible in many places. The DIY market for pumps has become enormous because people cannot count on anyone local knowing what they are doing. A good pump man is worth his weight in gold. But most these days have no idea how...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    Sorry for your problem and glad you got it fixed. But even knowing who and where a good pump service company is doesn't guarantee the goats get water. You should always find out what the problem was and how it was resolved. Learning how to replace a simple start capacitor or pressure switch...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    Yeah, you don't get much amp drop from most 5-7 GPM pumps. But it also depends on the brand of pump. This one drops from 1.9HP to 1HP at 1 GPM flow. Even with a 7 GPM pump the amps will drop nearly 50%. Shut off head on this pump is about 720' or 311 PSI. Deduct the 50' or 22 PSI for the...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    Well it is very common to hear. I am always being told the pump supplier said the "back pressure will burn up the pump", "the pump manufacturer won't honor their warranty if you use a Cycle Stop Valve", or "CSV waste energy". It has been a constant propaganda battle for 30 years, dissing the...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    I can help you figure out what size pump you have and how much back pressure it can build. Most pumps only build about 100 PSI back pressure. Again, the back pressure is probably less stress on your pipe than when that pump is cycling on and off.
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    The back pressure from a CSV is completely dependent on how much pressure the pump can build, less the depth to the static water level. Many years ago I would occasionally see 100# poly pipe in the trench line. Some really old houses may still have that. But 160# or higher is the pressure...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    The CSV's that fit inside the well casing are not adjustable. They come in 40, 50, or 60 PSI. As I explained to Woodchuckdad, the adjustment is all in the pressure switch. If you want a longer run time to fill the tank, turn the pressure switch up. If you want higher pressure when using...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    When you have the PK1A kit with the pressure switch attached close to the 4.5 gallon pressure tank, another pressure tank can simply be teed into the water line anywhere after the CSV kit. The extra tank can be a foot after the PK1A kit or all the way on the other side of the house. When using...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    If everyone understood this natural characteristic of a centrifugal pump, my job would be so much easier. But I would also have a bazillion competitors, because everyone would understand the CSV is better than a VFD. It is a double edged sword for me. In one way it makes CSV's hard to sell...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    I agree with Steve that water flow has never worn out poly pipe. And also agree rocks are not your friend. Most pipe problems I see are caused by water hammer from the pump starting and stopping. Using a Cycle Stop Valve will greatly limit the pump cycling and also give a mechanical soft...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    But then you did get into it here. Ditching the Cycle Stop Valve would be removing the most important part of the pump system. ANYWHERE the CSV has been "thrashed extensively" they fail to give any empirical evidence of the problem. They say back pressure is bad for a pump, but they never...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    Sorry you are having problems. If the CSV is not keeping the pump from cycling when using less than 2 GPM, we will gladly replace it. But if you have a lot of usages of less than 2 GPM, a 20 gallon size tank that holds 5 gallons of water will help. Water Worker is an Amtrol tank. Flexcon is...
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    Lightning strike, well pump box failed

    If the tank is upside down, water will come out of the Schrader as soon as the diaphragm goes bad. But if the Schrader is on top of the tank you won't see water come out until the tank is completely waterlogged. As was said, when the tank is right side up, the pump will have been rapid cycling...
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