Transmission fluid for 4220

[trs]

Manual says TF500 fluid- Dealer says any spec 1 non-foaming- What can I buy from Advance Auto, they carry Accel brand but specs are not listed on 5 gallon bucket-also front axle what product would be best that can be bought at auto supply store or Sam's Club

Thanks

 

[claggsgarage756]

You should use a qaulity Universal Tractor Transmission and Hydraulic Fluid. Sometimes it will be called UTF. You'll need about 3 buckets of it. This fluid is also used in the front axle.

 

[claggsgarage756]

Did a little bet of web searchin and found that the Coastal Universal Tractor Hydraulic Fluid is available at Advance Auto.

 

[trs]

Ended up at Sam's club- 5 gallons for $26- UTF showed it was ok to use in several tractors including Kabota- darn /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif it did not say anything about Branson... maybe some day will will get proper billing /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Where is that screen you all talk about cleaning.

 

[GEB]

I ended up paying $14 for 2 gal containers (Farm&Fleet)
You'll find that screen on the right side of the trans near the frt of the rear wheel.
It will have 3 bolts and a drain plug in the middle, I didnt even
bother with the drain, it was way tight!
The screen is way long, near 12in's looks like a filter.
You'll find a rubber 0-ring on both ends.
And yes you'll also find some metal shavings in it.
Gene

 

[trs]

Thanks GEB

 

[wallace]

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I know you got it already but for future ref. It is Accel 303

 

[SnowRidge]

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Ended up at Sam's club- 5 gallons for $26- UTF..... </font>

Yep, that's what I use in my 3520.

 

[LincTex]

I know you got it already but for future ref. It is Accel 303

NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER USE "303" OIL in anything that needs extreme pressure additives, or has any type of wet brakes or wet clutch.

John Deere cautions against this all the time... the "303" SPEC dies in the late 60's.

I see too may expensive tractor repairs from cheap oil.
I wish the 303 spec stuff would just DIE already.... but people keep buying it...

 

[LouNY]

How much did you pay for your tractor?
Do you expect it to work in all temps and last?
Why do you want to put the cheapest fluid possible in it?
Use a quality hytran fluid, there are numerous brands, easiest way would be to go to a New Holland or IH dealer and get it.
Also I do believe that the front axle fill lube was changed to gear lube.
Quality oil and fluids are the cheapest tractor maintenance items there is.

 

[Cougsfan]

I wish the industry used clearer designation for tractor hydraulic fluids. I have learned a long time ago that paying a lot for an item doesn't always correspond with guaranteed superior quality. And a lot of us don't have the luxury income to just run down to the New Holland or IH dealer and pay twice the price that we would for a premium fluid elsewhere. I agree that 303 is outdated, designed for stand alone hydraulic systems, and shouldn't be used in a modern combined transmission/hydraulic system. But how are you supposed to know when you are really buying what a modern tractor needs? The way it was explained to me by a long time tractor mechanic is that if it says Premium UTF on the label it is the right stuff. It is that simple. You can pay $50 for 5 gallons or $100 for 5 gallons, the choice is yours, and the performance won't be any different between the two.

 

[LouNY]

We use a lot of "hytran" our IH dealer carries the Pennzoil, which we use mainly, if it's not available we use the genuine hytran, our New Holland dealer is a lot closer so for grabbing a quick bucket we will stop in for it.

The Shell Spirax S4 TXM is a good choice,
as is Pennzoil HYDRA-TRANZｮ Multi-Use Tractor Fluid for Hydraulic, Transmission, Differential and Wet Brake Systems

When a fluid meets or exceeds
IH MS-1204,MS-1206 (Powergard PTF),MS-1207 (Hy-Tranｮ Plus)
or
JD J20 A, B, C and D

Personal my primary winter tractor has Cen-Pe-Co Multi-Purpose Hydraulic & Wet Brake Oil in it.
Which specs as follows
EXCEEDS SPECIFICATIONS:
Recommended where the following fluids are specified:
AGCO 821XL
Allis Chalmers Gear, Hydraulic and Wet Brake Oil, Power Fluid 821
Allison C-3 and C-4 Transmission Fluid
API GL4
Case Powerguard PTF Fluid, TCH, TFD I-II, JIC 145, JIC 185
Case International Nexploreｮ, Hy-Tranｮ Ultra, Hy-Tranｮ Plus, B-6, MS-1204, MS-
1205, MS-1206, MS-1207, MS-1209, MS-1230, MS-1317
Case New Holland MAT 3525, MAT 3526, MAT 3509, MAT 3505, MAT 3506, ESN
M2C86B
Caterpillar MTO, TO-2
Class/Renault transmissions
David Brown THF-1257 Fluid
Deutz Hydraulic Transmission Fluid
Deutz-Allis AC Power Fluid 821XL
Deutz-Fahr
Fiat-Hesston
Ford M2C 48B-C3, M2C 53A-B, M2C 86A-C, M-2C134A-D
Ford New Holland FNHA-2-C-200.00, FNHA-2-C-201.00
International Harvester Hy-Tranｮ Fluid B-6
JCMAS (Japanese Constructors Mechanization Association) HK P-041, P-42
John Deere HyGardｮ, Quatrolｮ, 303, J20A, J20C

So really any high quality fluid, just not the lowest price generic.

 

[Texasmark]

NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER USE "303" OIL in anything that needs extreme pressure additives, or has any type of wet brakes or wet clutch.

John Deere cautions against this all the time... the "303" SPEC dies in the late 60's.

I see too may expensive tractor repairs from cheap oil.
I wish the 303 spec stuff would just DIE already.... but people keep buying it...

I use it in my Fords and it's around for the old machines. On the Bransons, J20C spec is popularly available for all the newer whistles and bells.

 

[Jesser02Ex]

Pulling up an older thread as I prepare to take possession of my new 5220R. When looking for premium tractor fluid, Tractor Supply seems to have an option. Can anyone comment on their fluid?

Traveller Premium Universal Tractor Trans/Hydraulic Fluid at Tractor Supply Co.



Their site doesn't list much about the fluid, but I found a reviewer who posted this:

Recommended for the following applications:

Abex/Dennison HF-0 all pumps, HF-2, HF-1 Agco Power Fluid 821-XL Allison C-2, C-3 and C-4 Allis-Chalmers Power Fluid 821 Belarus Deutz-Allis Power Fluid 821 Case HY-TRAN Ultra (MS-1209) Case HY-TRAN Plus (MS-1207) Case TCH Fluid MS-1210 (JIC 145) International Harvester HY-TRAN B-6 Case TFD Fluid (MS-1204, JIC 185, 144, 143, B-5) Case TFD II Fluid (MS-1205)Case PowerGard PTF Fluid (MS-1206) Caterpillar TO-2 Case MS-1230 (High Pressure Systems) Dresser Construction Equip. Division Fiat John Deere HYGARD Fluid (JDM J20C) John Deere 303 Fluid (JDM-J20A, JDM J14B) Ford New Holland M2C41B, M2C48C, 53A, 86B, 134D, C, B, A Hesston-Fiat Oilofiat Tutela Multi-F AF-87 Grove Manufacturing Hydraulic Fluid International Harvester HY-TRANS Plus (MS-1207) Kubota UDT Fluid Kubota Transhydraulic Fluid Landini Tractor II Hydraulic Fluid Leyland Mahindra Massey Ferguson M-1110, M-1127A, M-1129 Massey Ferguson M-1129A, M-1141 Permatran III New Idea Power Units Steiger Hydraulic Trans. Fluid Sems 17001 Sperry Vickers M-2950-S, I-286-S Sunstrand Hydrostatic Trans. Fluid Valmet Versatile Gear and Hyd. Trans. Fluid Spec. 24-M, 23-M White Q-1705, Q-1826 White(Oliver) Type 55 Fluid (Q-1802) White Farm Universal HTF Fluid (Q-1766, Q-1766B) White Multipurpose Tractor Oil (Q-1722) Yanmar

Does this appear to be a good option for the Branson Transmission/Hydraulic needs?

 

[Texasmark]

J20C (since JD is popular and shows up when anything does for the premium fluid requirement) is what I look for with my 2 Bransons since they have wet brakes and hydrostat steering.....The 6530 has shuttle shift and independent clutch pack driven PTO adding 2 more goodies that require premium fluid.

The 3910 has wet brakes so that adds it to the list. The 2000 and 3000 are old school and aren't picky....I use the 303 spec for them but it seems to be disappearing due to the whale oil thing in the spec so I just look for a field tested trans/hydraulic fluid for them.

 

[Jesser02Ex]

Thanks Texasmark. It appears the premium fluid at Tractor Supply specifically calls out J20C as a compatible fluid. Good news since I can obtain this locally.

 

[Texasmark]

Thanks Texasmark. It appears the premium fluid at Tractor Supply specifically calls out J20C as a compatible fluid. Good news since I can obtain this locally.

That's what I use. Didn't want to opinionate you.....let you make your own unbiased decision. Grin I'm of the opinion that it's blended and packaged by Warren Oil Co, big coast to coast multimarket lubricant supplier. They have a www. I don't remember exactly but some fluids have their name on the back of the container rather than the words "Packaged for xyz company" and not mentioning by whom, like WW for example.