12 States to ban diesel vehicles

[not2old]

And I'm terribly old school and I hate change.....any kind of change.

I'm old school too, and the change I hate the worst is getting old. I was old enough fifteen years ago.

 

[ultrarunner]

The USA is the odd one out most of the developed world is heading this way to avoid destruction of the world via climate change The USA will need to fall into line or it will be forced to by the new world powers that will be in charge by then
As of August 2025, at least 27 European Union (EU) countries have legally committed to banning the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2035. In addition to the EU, several major non-EU countries—including the United Kingdom, Canada, Japan, South Korea, China (as policy target), and smaller nations such as Iceland and ******—have set out similar plans or public policy targets for ending the sale of new fossil-fuel vehicles by 2035. Some countries have formalised these plans with legislation, while others are in advanced discussions or have strong government proposals.

Countries with Formal Plans or Active Discussion for 2035 Ban​

• EU27: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden
• United Kingdom
• Canada
• Japan (hybrids may still be permitted)
• South Korea
• China (policy target includes Hong Kong and Macau)
• Iceland
• ******
• Chile
• Thailand (proposal, but not legally binding yet)
• Liechtenstein
• New Zealand (signatory to accelerated adoption; formal ban date is 2040 but engaged in the 2035 conversation)
• Norway (target for 2025, even stronger than 2035)
• Singapore (diesel and petrol bans, final phase out by 2040, with strong actions by 2030 and 2035)
• India (certain states with strong 2035-2040 plans)

Estimates from widely cited sources place the total at more than 30 countries that either have official legislation, binding government intent, or are in advanced public discussions about banning the sale of new petrol and/or diesel vehicles by 2035. Some countries, such as Norway and Singapore, have set even earlier targets, while others like the United States have state-level commitments (e.g. California) but not a national-level ban for 2035.

Key Points​

• All 27 EU countries will fully ban new petrol/diesel car sales by 2035.
• More than 30 countries worldwide (including key non-EU economies) have legislation, official government proposals, or strong national discussions about a 2035 ban on new internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles.
• Scope and details may differ, for instance, some allow hybrids, while others enforce stricter criteria.
• Several other countries have 2040 or later as their official ban year, but are signatories to international declarations aiming for the "as close as possible to 2035" goal.

This number may continue to increase as climate policies evolve and other countries formal

I believe the greatest environmental disaster is China and Russia plus the horrendous environmental damage from years of war plus shelling nuclear power plants, ships torpedoed, refineries destroyed.

With all this happening my California city has banned my gas brush cutters for fuel load reduction to save the world…

 

[Dftodd]

Guess I'm the odd man out here. I LIKE internal combustion. I like the smell, the sound, the feel of them. That's why I will never go EV. Those are just appliances to me. I don't care what I have to pay for fuel.
I'm also the the guy that still uses hand tools such as wrenches and ratchets.....even changing tires on my big rigs when I had them. I never use power tools or impacts.
My impact is a breaker bar with a 4 foot pipe on it, LOL

I work on stuff stuff daily. Sometimes ridiculous amounts of bolts.

I'll use my impacts and save my joints as much as possible.

 

[timbatrader]

I believe the greatest environmental disaster is China and Russia plus the horrendous environmental damage from years of war plus shelling nuclear power plants, ships torpedoed, refineries destroyed.

With all this happening my California city has banned my gas brush cutters for fuel load reduction to save the world…

China is bad but working hard on improvement USA under the current leadership is basically just telling the world F you
Here's a comprehensive comparison of the USA and China’s carbon dioxide (CO₂) emissions—covering their historical records, current levels, and predicted futures:

1. Historical Emissions​

United States​

• The U.S. was the world’s top emitter for much of the 20th century and led cumulative emissions into the 21st century.
• Total cumulative U.S. CO₂ emissions since 1850: over 532 billion tons—more than any other country.
• In 2005, emissions peaked at roughly 6.6 billion tons, and have declined since.
• Annual emissions in 2000: ~5.7 billion tons; 2014: 6.87 billion tons; 2020: ~5.2 billion tons.

China​

• China’s emissions were much lower than the USA’s until the early 2000s.
• Around 2006, China overtook the USA as the top annual emitter.
• Cumulative emissions (within its borders, since 1850): 312 billion tons as of 2023—still behind the USA but recently surpassing the EU.
• In 2000, China emitted ~3.4 billion tons; by 2010: ~8.1 billion tons; 2020: nearly 12 billion tons.

2. Present-Day Emissions​

United States (2023–2024)​

• 2023: ~4.8–4.9 billion metric tons (Gt) CO₂; a 2.7% decrease from 2022; emissions are now more than 20% below 2005 levels.
• Largest sectoral source: transportation, followed by electricity and industry.
• Per capita emissions: ~15–17 tons per person yearly, among the world’s highest for large economies.

China (2023–2024)​

• 2023–2024: Stable at 12.6–15.8 Gt CO₂, accounting for about 35% of global annual emissions.
• 2025: For the first time, evidence of a possible 1%–1.6% year-on-year decrease, driven by massive growth in wind, solar, and nuclear replacing coal in the power sector.
• Per capita emissions: ~10 tons per person—above the world and EU average, but still below the U.S..
• Sectoral source: Mostly coal for power and industrial sectors. China is also a net exporter of emissions through manufacturing.

3. Predicted Future Emissions​

United States​

• Long-term decline projected as renewable energy expands and legislation on climate (like the Inflation Reduction Act) takes effect.
• U.S. emissions expected to keep decreasing slowly, though the pace will depend on policy consistency.

China​

• Most analysts agree emissions are at or near their all-time peak, with some evidence the peak occurred recently.
• China has pledged its CO₂ emissions will peak by 2030 and reach net zero by 2060.
• Projections:
  • “Conservative” scenario: Plateau at current high levels until ~2028, then a slow decline (1.7%/year toward 2035).
  • “Optimistic” scenario: Peak around 2025, steeper decline (2.5%/year) if renewables outpace fossil growth, potentially lowering 2030 emissions by an additional 6% compared to the baseline.
• Future fluctuations are possible as economic stimulus and coal use—especially if directed to construction or heavy industry—influence year-to-year emissions.

4. Key Differences and Trends​

Aspect	USA	China
Cumulative emissions	World’s largest (since 1850)	2nd largest (since 1850, recently overtook the EU)
Peak year (annual)	2005 (~6.6 Gt)	~2023/24 (~15.8 Gt), consensus: 2022–2025 peak
Current annual (2023–24)	4.8–4.9 Gt	12.6–15.8 Gt
Sectoral source	Transport, electricity	Electricity (coal), industry
Per capita emissions	~15–17 tons/year	~10 tons/year
Future projection	Continued slow decline	Plateau, then decline after peak, steeper if clean transition accelerates

5. Summary​

• USA: Cumulative emissions remain highest in the world. Annual emissions have been falling for nearly two decades; predicted to continue slowly declining as clean energy grows.
• China: Now the world’s largest emitter both in total and as a share of the global total (about 35%). Its emissions plateaued at a very high level, and are projected to either stay stable for a few more years or start declining before 2030—especially if clean energy growth keeps outpacing fossil fuel demand.
• Both: Future emissions are highly dependent on policy enforcement, global energy economics, and the ability to accelerate the energy transition.

This comparison highlights the contrasting emissions trajectories and underscores the critical importance of ongoing energy transitions in both nations for the world’s climate future.

 

[Renze]

My impact is a breaker bar with a 4 foot pipe on it, LOL

My breaker bar had its name the other way around, so i took a half inch socket, welded several rounds of cut open, pipe around it, a foot of 30mm bar, with 3 inch of heavy walled tube at the end in T shape. I can stick 3 feet of bar in it, and when in doubt, slide 6 feet of pipe over it. I rarely need the torch

 

[Renze]

By the way, whats Trump doing with the EPA ? Relaxing diesel emissions, was that a hoax, or did i get only half of the story ?

 

[Torvy]

I knew it was a common expectation to phase out ICE through out the world so I just asked AI for the details go ahead and ask AI yourself The USA is so out of line with most first world countries that it is rapidly becoming a third world country

There's your problem...asking AI is like asking Wikipedia.

 

[Jstpssng]

While I agree with keeping our air clean, much of this is about a transfer of wealth.

 

[Paystar]

Thanks to social media, most people don't know what to believe any more.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

China

• In 2000, China emitted ~3.4 billion tons; by 2010: ~8.1 billion tons; 2020: nearly 12 billion tons.

China (2023–2024)​

• 2023–2024: Stable at 12.6–15.8 Gt CO₂, accounting for about 35% of global annual emissions.

I'm impressed. Normally it seems like getting truthful information from China is next to impossible, but apparently AI has found a crack in the armor and now has access to info that not even the Chinese may know about.

 

[Chewwy]

One has to wonder what those countries and states think will power the machines that will be replacing the ICEs. I expect they are counting on EVs. Also likely they have no clue where the electricity to power the EVs will come from.

 

[bvanek]

Thanks to social media, most people don't know what to believe any more.

The mainstream "news" as well...information has been hijacked and the truth suppressed.(lying by omission is probably the most common, and in turn, the most nefarious)

Who feeds the info?...probably the most powerful sponsors, using any available platform or site to support their agenda and bleat out their shared narratives. (many useful idiots on social media, also, those who aren't idiots that are more than happy to project their politics if it is aimed at the opposition.

Think global elites and their wish to control people's hearts and minds. How many times have we heard the "new world order"? Been hearing that since I was in high school and that was a long, long time ago. Where is that order? it won't happen...too many cultures with differing opinions, lawlessness, Western culture resentment, religious persecution, etc. Corrupt leadership enforcement and censorship that has one main goal, "remain in power" by any means. The clean air and water is their virtue signal and a powerful tool to get their means across....

I've went back to books. But you have to trust the sources as well....Victor David Hansen and Thomas Sowell..great historians that give a lot of background reflecting then and now. Pretty spot on perspective and just plain common sense based on historical outcomes. My old Websters book dictionary seems dated when you compare it to the online stuff...or is it just someone's "new definition" based on a personal perception. He she or it, 2 genders, etc.

I'm not getting old, I am old.....this is me on my 1953 International TD 6 (farm cat) clearing land for my home back in 1980. Old school is a more simple lifestyle. May be hard work at times but it was a chance to take control and plan for a lifestyle of your choice and not something that "authority" mapped for you ahead of time.

 

[ultrarunner]

By the way, whats Trump doing with the EPA ? Relaxing diesel emissions, was that a hoax, or did i get only half of the story ?

I believe the congressional authority the EPA citied applies to stationary sources such as factories, etc.

The head of the EPA says he follows the law and if Congress expands his agency’s authority to include mobile sources he will enforce it…

For a very long time a vocal group has maintained the EPA overstepped its authority and the President agrees.

Then there is the California issue of superseding Federal Law… with the EPA blessing and this is also in question…

Maybe I can buy a Honda lawn mower or gas generator again as a California resident?

 

[MinnesotaEric]

One has to wonder what those countries and states think will power the machines that will be replacing the ICEs. I expect they are counting on EVs. Also likely they have no clue where the electricity to power the EVs will come from.

Mandate citizens to rub balloons against their heads to charge the grid, I imagine.

 

[Torvy]

Well actually I do think your problems are fixable in New Zealand we do have free health care half the homeless rate of the USA and very little government/corporate corruption but you guys love your system so go for it but what I don't like is how you are stuffing the planet. burning fossal fuels. The rest of the world with far less resource's than the USA is able to build clean renewable energy why can't you

No offense to my Kiwi friends (I'm an All Blacks fan), but New Zealand would be a mid-sized state by population or land area. Its per capita GDP ranks near the bottom when compared to US states.

New Zealand is also blessed with having no bordering countries. Isolation allows for a simplistic life. You have a beautiful country, but comparing it to the US is meaningless.

 

[Eagle1]

I would love to live in NZ if I could afford a big chunk of remote land to run livestock. Gorgeous county.
I would question with all boats and ships used on the coast, are all of them going to be battery powered? I'm a couple of thousand KM from an ocean and much that is imported comes here via truck from the coast.
Can you bring the sheep to market on electric vehicles from the remote stations? Serious question.

 

[Renze]

Or, Europe might become a second Cuba and keep the older usable vehicles going for several decades if the EU is indeed idiotic enough to stick with their pipe dreams.

No, the EU will fall apart over civil unrest over the tsunami of 3rd world migrants before becoming a Cuba.

Germany is so politically correct that they depict a grown white woman groping a black kid to attend people that groping is inappropriate in the swimming pool. Reality off course is that Arab and African rascals grope children as young as 9 years old.