Holly F...ng Branson!!!!!!!

[2manyrocks]

Plus the other issues at low hours dont inspire confidence.

 

[dfkrug]

I’m guessing one trade off is the more heavyweight the design the less available lifting capacity.

Yes, indeed.

My homemade forks and frame weigh in at about 200#. I can lift a one-ton log with my Kioti, if I keep it low. I max out the loader all the time, carefully. I coulda bought an off-the-shelf fork frame, but they are quite heavy, esp with QA coupling.

Life, and a tractor, is all about tradeoffs.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Some people should definitely buy a Kubota.

I'll keepy Branson.

But yes, some people should definitely just go buy a Kubota

 

[Fixastuff]

Keep on your stupidity, i'll pay all my attention to your mouth farts!!!
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lol. Great job on the repair. It was done quickly also.

 

[sd455dan]

Some people should definitely buy a Kubota.

I'll keepy Branson.

But yes, some people should definitely just go buy a Kubota

Yep, think of all those pallets and things the little Branson's FEL already lifted, moved, and dealt with, that in some other members cases couldn't do with Kubotas of similar HP at all, or say a new 68HP $68K John Deere... then ate a $4000 loss to get a tractor that would actually lift as much as the 2515 already has.

 

[5030]

And I'm sure you could find owners of the Kioti (or Kubota or etc.) that have had similar issues.

Level of inflicted abuse always determines the rate of failure...

 

[tradosaurus]

You seem to think that you`re the smartest guy in the room, so why aren`t you on the phone to all these manufacturer`s and telling them they`ve got it all wrong then.

Because if you break your tractor the mfg will just claim owner abuse and deny any warranty claim. They don't care but to tout how much is their lift capacity.

 

[WinterDeere]

Level of inflicted abuse always determines the rate of failure...

It's a factor for sure, right along side how good or bad the design is, and how good or bad the build quality (welding, etc.) is.

In all likelihood, the guy who chose the cross section for that broken loader arm, or the material for that cylinder rod, did it based upon a set of conditions that were later changed by someone else after he was done or gone. It happens all the time, an unknowing product engineer deciding to amp up the system pressure for greater lift capacity, without understanding that the guy who designed that loader chose his material thicknesses and tensile strengths based on minimizing cost within the old pressure limits.

 

[5030]

I've seen and repaired boom weldments on much larger equipment in the past. Last one I repaired was a Cat back hoe, track machine where the owner operator actually ripped the end of the stick trunnion out of the stick weldment so anything is possible when abuse is factored in. Only reason why it landed here was the County Road Commission was doing culvert work and hosed the machine right in front of the shop. Money maker....

 

[WinterDeere]

I suspect the design margins get a lot thinner as machine size increases, for two main reasons:

1. Cost. It does not cost so much to over-build smaller equipment with a little extra margin. But as things get large, it goes from "expensive" to eventually "impossible" to build in the same safety margins.

2. Assumed operator experience: The smaller machines are built on the assumption that the operators may be much less experienced than large equipment operators, and so more margin is warranted.