Wildfire suppression trailer

[Jstpssng]

Goats are allowed for the brief time actually on the job…

Renting goats is futile and if I owned goats where would I keep them the other 360 days of the year?

Rent them out!!!

 

[Jstpssng]

That being said, I wouldn't attempt to mow a steep slope with a 9n

I agree 110%. However, many people grew up without so it doesn't seem like a big deal to them. My father once mowed the local ski slope with his 8N... That's how he paid for the 5' IH rotary which I use now.

 

[Bearsixty7]

One of my bad neighbors is the Water District. They do not control vegetation per EPA restrictions. Their land is sage, grasses, weeds, and eucalyptus trees On the other side I mow my neighbors field cheap just to control the risk. And I have some Eucalyptus trees around the wood sided house for shade. The concern is valid given the frequency of CA wildfires....

Maybe discuss your concern with them and as last resort offer to manage it and bill them on the higher end of reasonable rates!

 

[EddieWalker]

Goats are not really good at keep the grass down. My three horses do more to keep the grass short then my 80 goats. But in the trees and thick woods, the goats shine!! They will open up the understory and make it almost park like.

 

[ultrarunner]

The killer in trying to deal with any agency is high dollar liability and business license…

Even consultants under contract for the city are required to have the city as additional insured on auto policy…

Might be different other places.

 

[ultrarunner]

Goats are not really good at keep the grass down. My three horses do more to keep the grass short then my 80 goats. But in the trees and thick woods, the goats shine!! They will open up the understory and make it almost park like.

How much would it cost to rent some of your best eaters?

The pros live in campers and follow the roving herd and their not so secret weapon are their amazing herding dogs that do the real work…

 

[EddieWalker]

How much would it cost to rent some of your best eaters?

The pro live in campers and follow the roving herd and their not so secret weapon are their amazing herding dogs that do the real work…

About $5 a foot for the materials to build a proper goat fence. Labor is going to be a lot more. Fortunately, the goats are cheap. I'll even give you a dozen if you can catch them!!!!!

 

[ponytug]

About $5 a foot for the materials to build a proper goat fence. Labor is going to be a lot more. Fortunately, the goats are cheap. I'll even give you a dozen if you can catch them!!!!!

That looks like a really happy herd, and a nice fence!

We use low line belted galloways to do the steep brush mowing. No rollover risk, and no chance of ignition while reducing the grass length and fuel load. They aren't anywhere close to goats at removing underbrush, but over a few years, the brush gets opened up.

All the best,

Peter

 

[Eagle1]

That looks like a really happy herd, and a nice fence!

We use low line belted galloways to do the steep brush mowing. No rollover risk, and no chance of ignition while reducing the grass length and fuel load. They aren't anywhere close to goats at removing underbrush, but over a few years, the brush gets opened up.

All the best,

Peter

I use Irish Dexter, they will clear both brush and grass, Slow on brush when the grass is thick but if the grass is lacking anything is eaten, except my menace wild Mint. They do love poison ivy/oak as much as grass.

 

[scootr]

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[jyoutz]

Or, do both, because why not if you've got the time and money.

Sure, people can spend their time and money as they wish. Personally, I have removed trees from around the house and I mow 10 acres around the structures and then don’t worry about fire.

 

[jyoutz]

Goats are allowed for the brief time actually on the job…

Renting goats is futile and if I owned goats where would I keep them the other 360 days of the year?

There are some communities in Arizona that have contracted with goat herders to do fuels reduction work eating brush. They don’t fence, the herders bring the goats and control them, then leave when the job is done.

 

[ultrarunner]

There are some communities in Arizona that have contracted with goat herders to do fuels reduction work eating brush. They don’t fence, the herders bring the goats and control them, then leave when the job is done.

It’s about 5k per acre is my lowest quote for steep rugged terrain without adequate fencing and must book 14 months in advance.

Part of the high cost is trees trunks must be protected generally by wrapping and poison oak is always lurking and small jobs are double to four times large jobs..

 

[jyoutz]

It’s about 5k per acre is my lowest quote for steep rugged terrain and must book 14 months in advance.

Part of the high cost is trees trunks must be protected generally by wrapping and poison oak is always lurking.

I don’t think the AZ communities are paying near that much.

 

[ultrarunner]

The herders are paid benefits and subject to overtime and double time, etc. since the carve out for shepherds was eliminated plus a veterinarian must certify the goats are properly cared for…

 

[ultrarunner]

The herders are paid benefits and subject to overtime and double time, etc. since the carve out for shepherds was eliminated plus a veterinarian must certify the goats are properly cared for…

A friend said just put a goat on a tether and move it every couple days… coyotes and mountain lions are a threat and goats lost every year.

If I invested in a suitable fence and maintained it from falling trees and people iU would consider turning a couple loose…

 

[jyoutz]

The herders are paid benefits and subject to overtime and double time, etc. since the carve out for shepherds was eliminated plus a veterinarian must certify the goats are properly cared for…

The goat herders in AZ are contracted at a flat rate per acre per month, but it’s nowhere near $5k.

 

[ponytug]

The goat herders in AZ are contracted at a flat rate per acre per month, but it’s nowhere near $5k.

I believe that @ultrarunner is in an area with both high demand, and lots of local requirements. I suspect all of which add to the cost, plus most of the larger goat herds come from several hundred miles away. I know of one Texas operation that brings multiple million dollar herds out here for fuel reduction.

I wonder how far away your Arizona herds have to travel.

All the best,

Peter

 

[ultrarunner]

Herders were paid about 4k per month but the change in labor law reclassifying as AG workers boost pay to about 14k per month when all is factored.

Grazing goats used to prevent wildfires may be out of business with new labor law for herders

With Northern California under the threat of wildfires and grass fires as warmer days are ahead, many businesses and cities are turning to goats to get rid of the dry brush.

www.kcra.com

 

[ultrarunner]

General Programs and Prices

Costs depend on the job, a quick day price is as low as $350, and the full day rate can range from $500 to $650.

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