Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?

[dfkrug]

I was up in San Francisco last weekend (about 60 miles away), visiting niece/nephew who just bought a house there. Saw 3 CTs on the way; one wrapped.

Lotsa EVs in the state, yes, but they make little economic sense unless you can charge at home with solar panels. I would probably have one if I had panels. But I live in the forest and pay 60c+ per KWh.

Anyway, I got a chance to ride in a Jaguar I-Pace EV. Sans driver. It was a Waymo driverless taxi, and it is the future. Overall, I was impressed. It costs a bit over a Uber, but no tips.

 

[WinterDeere]

I live in the forest and pay 60c+ per KWh.

Holy crap, CA is nuts! We pay $19.3c/kWh, all-in.

Last month's bill was $625.40 for 3242 kWh. Almost makes me wish we had electric heat.

 

[not2old]

Lotsa EVs in the state, yes, but they make little economic sense unless you can charge at home with solar panels. I would probably have one if I had panels. But I live in the forest and pay 60c+ per KWh

I pay 14 cents after a lower priced threshold. My two month bill in the winter is over $600.00. Summer is cheap at about $220.00 to air condition 4600 square feet for two months. Even at 14 cents I'm thinking about adding some solar as I think that the cost will rise quickly when EV's are forced on most of us.

 

[dfkrug]

Holy crap, CA is nuts! We pay $19.3c/kWh, all-in.

Last month's bill was $625.40 for 3242 kWh. Almost makes me wish we had electric heat.

I use less than 300 KWh per month now, but I now live alone. I also heat with wood and don't need air conditioning, due to my concrete house.

I averaged $100 a month for electricity in 2024.

 

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[ultrarunner]

Holy crap, CA is nuts! We pay $19.3c/kWh, all-in.

Last month's bill was $625.40 for 3242 kWh. Almost makes me wish we had electric heat.

No end to the rising cost of electricity and it boggles the mind as my area is pushing all electric and bans wood and gas in new construction.

Lots of older homes here with rooftop panels that fall under several different tiers of net metering depending on when commissioned date… the oldest got the best 20 year deal.

EV had/has several things going in their favor such as being able to go single occupant in carpool lanes, reduced tolls, many preferred parking areas and even free charging…

The die hards are very pleased and they all have home solar with some having office solar going back to the early 2000’s.

My 6kW 2009 array produces more than I use… but no EV for me.

That said my January Utility bill was $299 for 3200 square feet with thermostat at 68 24/7 in my experiment…

All but the $15 for electric meter fee with the rest being natural gas and taxes.

Many of my colleagues have utility bills 3 times mine this time of year.

 

[Renze]

That was the era of thou-shall-not speak-ill-of-foreign-vehicles but was OK to bash American-made ones.

Or sue-one-in-reach-of-the-local-court....

Ralph Nader got rich selling a book about a big greedy corporation getting rich by cutting corners on safety, and the little man sueing them. A classic American epos, like Erin Brokovich. Its a story that sells well, and Nader found his niche ! His book wouldnt be as relatable to the American audience if he went after VW or Honda...

 

[Renze]

Apparently its not just here in Europe...

https://insideevs.com/news/750076/tesla-sales-tanking-globally/

Didnt we all know, that when a company can finance itself through stock emissions that soon are sold for a multitude of its initial value without anyone asking what they need the money for, (because they werent making any) that they were filling the company with hopes and dreams, hot air, a Ponzy scheme ?

...apparently not because some people kept investing in it...

I think if it wasnt Tesla but Toyota or GM, nobody would care if its CEO got involved in politics. Some people wanted a Tesla because they identify with a young eccentric succesful businessman who invested in new tech (and are now disappointed that this guy has middle-aged political ideas) But here in Europe most Tesla sales were commercial, simply because of the significant tax deductibles on EV.

My opinion: A deflation of the hot air in Tesla, as well as in the resale value of its products, was imminent. That it started during Musks political adventure it, is a coincidence. Just the perfect storm.

 

[tradosaurus]

When we take our Tesla Y in to have a tow hitch installed at the local Tesla Service center, I have scheduled to test drive a Cybertruck.
When the CT can compete with Ford and GM EV trucks with the same rated range for similar costs then I might think about getting a CT.
But I would not pay $12K extra for a battery extender on the CT.

 

[NoTrespassing]

WOW, I just had my highest electric bill ever and it was $177, average is about $100. We had a lot of subzero F days on that bill. I live in a 950 sq. ft. shack though. I spend about $50/month on propane.