4310 Rear Hydraulic Couplings

[FredSG]

Hello,

I guess I'm showing my ignorance with this post, but I need expert opinions. The photo shows the rear of my 4310. The red arrow is pointing to the two hydraulic couplings - does it, or do they have a special name? Is there any way that they can be used to run a hydraulic implement , or do they have to be added to get that functionality? Can they be used to add a 3rd function to my 4310 to run a grapple?

Right now I have hydraulics to only run a front JD snow blower. Looking to add hydraulics to maybe add a grapple or front hydraulic snow plow.

Any comments or offerings will be appreciated.

FredSG

 

[kennyd]

Those are your rear 3rd SCV connections, they are operated by the lever on your right fender.

Yes, you can have long hoses made and extend them to the loader to run a grapple, but you'll have to take your hand off of the joystick to open/close it. Not convenient, but functional.

 

[beenthere]

Appears to me you have a 3rd SCV capability. What are your controls like ? A button on the joy stick? or another control lever in the cab?
More photos please.

kennyd beat me to it..

I use mine to operate a thumb on the forks as well as re-plug to operate an hydraulic top arm on the 3ph.

 

[FredSG]

Kennyd,

Can you explain this further - "Those are your rear 3rd SCV connections, they are operated by the lever on your right fender." Is the lever you mention the Selective Control Valve (SCV) Control Lever?

beenthere,
No controls in the cab and no joy stick button. Unless you are referring to the
Selective Control Valve (SCV) Control Lever?

I checked out the Summit web site and they have a universal 3rd function kit for my 4310 . . . will this work for me, or any other suggestions for a cleaner setup?

Thanks for your replies.

FredSG

 

[beenthere]

Fred
Show us what you have in the cab.

 

[FredSG]

Fred
Show us what you have in the cab.

It's PM here, will do tomorrow; what specific areas in the cab do you want to see?

Thanks,

FredSG

 

[kennyd]

Can you explain this further

If I had a dollar...



This thread shows some pics:

Installing a 3rd SCV on a 4310

OK you may have read where I asked for help with the 3 pt lever handle. We will get to that a little later. I thought I would pass own the knowledge I gain from this little endeavor. Every part you need to do the install is in box. You will need allen wrenches, patience, metric sockets...

www.tractorbynet.com

There is a lever next to the seat, I thought it was on the console like the 4300 series.

 

[FredSG]

If I had a dollar...



This thread shows some pics:

Installing a 3rd SCV on a 4310

OK you may have read where I asked for help with the 3 pt lever handle. We will get to that a little later. I thought I would pass own the knowledge I gain from this little endeavor. Every part you need to do the install is in box. You will need allen wrenches, patience, metric sockets...

www.tractorbynet.com

There is a lever next to the seat, I thought it was on the console like the 4300 series.

Ken,

Where do I send the dollar? I'm desperate for information . . .

FredSG

 

[FredSG]

Beenthere,

Here are the photos you requested.

FredSG

 

[kennyd]

I have an entire website for taking dollars, LOL.

This lever is what controls those rear ports. Its the OEM rear 3rd SCV kit from John Deere.

 

[FredSG]

Ken,

The dollar is on its way to you as I type this . . . would you please explain in elementary terms how the ". . . lever is what controls those rear ports. Its the OEM rear 3rd SCV kit from John Deere" . . . works. The 4310 manual description makes it hard to understand.

FredSG

 

[kennyd]

Fred............
I just don't understand the difficulty here, wow.

When you have a cylinder connected to these ports (with hoses or course) it extends when the lever is moved one way, and retracts when it's move the other way.

Same as your loader, right?

Good luck.

 

[beenthere]

kennyd
Great lesson and patient explanation. It's what TBN is all about, being helpful to the members.
Fred's pics were very helpful in pointing it out. Thanks Fred.

 

[FredSG]

Ken and Beenthere,

Thanks for all your help . . . but I'm a "hands on" kind of 80 year old guy . . . what I was hoping for was - OK, I've attached two hoses to the rear scv ports and have hoses running to the front of my 4310 and hooked up to my grapple - how do I activate my grapple, to open and close it, to raise and lower it? And how do I work or set the scv lever in my cab?

The four ports for the bucket are not involved in any way?

Guys, thanks for your time and patience with an old fart like me.

FredSG

 

[beenthere]

The FEL will raise and lower, and tilt using the joy stick and those 4 ports you mentioned.
The grapple will open and close using the lever pointed out to you showing the cylinder in and out.
You will have those two hydraulic lines running from the rear ports in your first photo to the cylinder on the FEL grapple to open and close it as desired. You mention those are in place.
Hope that helps.
Put up a photo of the grapple and we may be able to point out more that will help grapple (grasp) this.

 

[FredSG]

Beenthere,

Here are two photos of my grapple that is currently in shed storage. I inserted the hoses into one another just to keep them free of dust and dirt.

Am I correct by writing - (1) the joy stick can be used to raise and lower the grapple. And (2) the SCV lever in the cab on the fender can be used to open and close the grapple. Thanks again, FredSG

 

[beenthere]

Correct, but also the joy stick will tilt your grapple that is attached to your FEL (front end loader). Just like dumping the bucket when it was used.

A trick, I found, was routing the hydraulic lines from the rear end of the tractor to the front of the loader. Disconnects needed if removing the forks, as well as needed if removing the FEL.

My "grapple" is just a thumb (The Thumb) used to grasp brush and hold logs when using the forks on my FEL.

 

[kneedeep]

Read your manual

 

[McCann]

On my 4310 I run a grapple that I made. I run two smaller hoses to the grapple along the side of the cab and then have them strapped to the loader arm with ball bungees and at the front with a loose large rubber bungee. This enables the hose to move back-and-forth without getting caught. Once it’s plugged into the rear ports tilt your bucket/grapple like you would a loader bucket, and move that lever closest to the seat forward and back, and it will open and close that cylinder on top of the grapple you will need to match up the quick connectors to fit at the back of your tractor. The reason I ran small diameter hoses is you don’t need that cylinder that operates your grapple to move rapidly. Just like on the rear blade that pivots hydraulically I had to install a restrictor to keep it from moving too fast. I know you can always feather the control handle but it’s just a personal preference. Good luck.

 

[Lavender Valley]

The FEL will raise and lower, and tilt using the joy stick and those 4 ports you mentioned.
The grapple will open and close using the lever pointed out to you showing the cylinder in and out.
You will have those two hydraulic lines running from the rear ports in your first photo to the cylinder on the FEL grapple to open and close it as desired. You mention those are in place.
Hope that helps.
Put up a photo of the grapple and we may be able to point out more that will help grapple (grasp) this.

An electric-activated diverter can be put into two of the 4 FEL ports, creating another 2 outlets. The electric toggle switch can be put on the joystick, a simple one-handed operation. The 2 extra hoses can be permanently fixed to the FEL with 2 quick couplings just behind the bucket, so any hydraulic can be connected.