75% of truck owners tow 1/year or less?

   / 75% of truck owners tow 1/year or less? #351  
Those mud-mixers really do look like a much better system than a wheel barrow, loader bucket, or old system mixer. Not cheap for sure though

Also, I've found 60# bags vs 80#, maybe over an entire yard, might be $1-2 different, so I tend to buy 60s now.

It used to be, I would throw 80s all day, and 94# bags of Portland were tiring; now, 80s feel like the 94s used too
I rented the mud mixer for about $75 for 4 hours, picked it up at 9 when they opened, returned it admit 10:45.

The price of the 60lb or 80lb bags don’t matter to me, the pallet of 80lb bags had how many I needed on it so I had them put the pallet in my truck with fork lift
 
   / 75% of truck owners tow 1/year or less? #352  
I'm getting mixed signals here. Are you boasting or complaining? ;)

For mixing & pouring 30- 80lb bags of concrete in an hour, I would mention my sore back and stiff shoulders. 🚧🛑
Neither, just saying I use 2 of my 3 trucks the way some day trucks should be used. Was not sore at all, the Mud Mixer adds water and mixes the concrete, just dump the bags into it.

My third truck is a S-10, it is just a toy for me, a hot rod.
 
   / 75% of truck owners tow 1/year or less? #353  
No one mentioned this but the accident survivability in a bigger truck, especially in a real world accident is much better than cars if for no other reason than height of truck and protective frame rails.
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   / 75% of truck owners tow 1/year or less? #356  
75% of truck owners tow a trailer 1/year or less
70% go off road 1/year or less
35% haul something in the bed 1/year or less

This is a very binary way of looking at things. I'm not a big fan of going out and making a mess in the mud with the pickup.

However, I would never purchase a pickup without 4x4. Why?

It turns out that there are some places where I just need a little extra traction. Perhaps a difference between being stuck, and keeping moving.

Pickup manufacturers stopped putting "Granny Gear" in the pickups quite some time ago. Yet, there are times when one needs a little lower gearing and higher torque. So throw it into 4x4 low, and get up that hill that might just kill the pickup in normal RWD.

Or, I'll be on gravel, and rather than throw up a big rooster tail of gravel flying everywhere while leaving ruts behind, I'll throw it into 4x4, and get the traction I need.

Towing... Do we really want all pickup drivers towing? I'm always surprised with those that figured towing is simply driving forward down the road. Yet I frequently get somewhere where it is just expected to back up around a corner, perhaps leaving only inches of space on the sides.

I can't believe people aren't at least throwing some groceries in the back every once in a while. Or, perhaps they have a 5th wheel, and don't like the bed full.
 
   / 75% of truck owners tow 1/year or less? #357  
Towing... Do we really want all pickup drivers towing?
Amen!!!!! I was thinking about this yesterday. Our current license schedule here allows you to pass your driver's test, go home and hook onto a 10,000 lb trailer. Things may have changed but when I took driver's Ed 50 years ago we never even discussed trailers.

I will add that I make it a point never to get somewhere where it is just expected to back up around a corner, perhaps leaving only inches of space on the sides.
I could have done it with my tandem axle, but not with my little 8 foot dump trailer.
 
   / 75% of truck owners tow 1/year or less?
  • Thread Starter
#358  
This is a very binary way of looking at things. I'm not a big fan of going out and making a mess in the mud with the pickup.

However, I would never purchase a pickup without 4x4. Why?

It turns out that there are some places where I just need a little extra traction. Perhaps a difference between being stuck, and keeping moving.

Pickup manufacturers stopped putting "Granny Gear" in the pickups quite some time ago. Yet, there are times when one needs a little lower gearing and higher torque. So throw it into 4x4 low, and get up that hill that might just kill the pickup in normal RWD.

Or, I'll be on gravel, and rather than throw up a big rooster tail of gravel flying everywhere while leaving ruts behind, I'll throw it into 4x4, and get the traction I need.

Towing... Do we really want all pickup drivers towing? I'm always surprised with those that figured towing is simply driving forward down the road. Yet I frequently get somewhere where it is just expected to back up around a corner, perhaps leaving only inches of space on the sides.

I can't believe people aren't at least throwing some groceries in the back every once in a while. Or, perhaps they have a 5th wheel, and don't like the bed full.
Clif, we already determined the data was selected from a specific area, of drivers of a specific truck, by a news source to prove that Noone should be allowed to own a truck. So, the numbers are not correct nationwide.

However, there is a very small bit of truth in it. Many (probably most) people with a truck could likely get by with something else, or at the very least, under utilize the truck.
 
   / 75% of truck owners tow 1/year or less?
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#359  
Not 100% truck, but along a similar point.

Our new place is back a unmaintaned dirt road (it's FLa, so it's a sand road). One guy grades it sometimes, and I have graded the worse part a couple times too, over the last 2 months. Then, our driveway goes up the hill from the road, and although it's got a bit of ball field clay, and a bit of mixed gravel/millings, it is wash prone; and when it stays dry for long, everything turns into loose sand.

Wife drives a mid sized car (charger RT), owes about 3 years on a 5 year loan, and I mentioned, it might be worth looking to see if an almost even swap kinda deal could be found for a small 4wd pickup or medium suv. I dont doubt she can make it in during any day with decent or even kinda bad weather, but in heavy heavy rain, it might be iffy. She also brought up, her car is basically perfect now; but she worries that at some point, she's gonna tear it up, hitting the nose going into a wash out or whatever, or just hitting the loose stuff at the speed needed to make it through.
 
   / 75% of truck owners tow 1/year or less? #360  
Those mud-mixers really do look like a much better system than a wheel barrow, loader bucket, or old system mixer. Not cheap for sure though

Also, I've found 60# bags vs 80#, maybe over an entire yard, might be $1-2 different, so I tend to buy 60s now.

It used to be, I would throw 80s all day, and 94# bags of Portland were tiring; now, 80s feel like the 94s used too
I do a lot of small concrete jobs around the property and renting a mud mixer isn't very practical. I needed something handy to pour the occasional one or two yard project.

I picked up a used 5 cu. ft. stand mixer at a yard sale for $50. It had a burned out motor which I took off and replaced with a hydraulic motor. I welded an SSQA plate to the stand and move it around with the tractor FEL. I power the motor with the 3rd function valve, load the ingredients at the sand pile, and mix while I transport to the job site. With the mixer on the FEL, I get a good reach and can easily pour into the form. The only time I get off the tractor is to load the ingredients.

It sure beats a wheelbarrow and making trips to the rental yard.
 

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