Starlink

[grsthegreat]

Believe me, as soon, if ever, as fiber gets to us this dish is gone. Man, fiber is SOOOOO much cheaper per month.

 

[K5lwq]

I think the change is they are now throttling us back during peak times. Unless we want to pay more per month.

 

[grsthegreat]

No, there is no throttling going on, theres just some change to the name used is what ive been told. Somehow i bet hes adding a X to it.



An updated Terms of Service will go into effect on 10/10/2024. No action is required on your behalf. Based on your location, changes may include a new name for your service plan.

Thank you for being a Starlink customer and supporting our efforts to deliver high-speed, low-latency internet across the globe!

The Starlink Team

If you wish to discontinue your Starlink service, you may cancel at any time.

 

[K5lwq]

This is what I read when I click the link and look at terms of service.
This is why I think they will throttle us back.

 

[BigBlue1]

That's 'Residential Lite' plan. That's why the data is deprioritized. The standard 'Residential' plan doesn't have deprioritized data. That said, the system has a fixed pipe and all 'Residential' customers will compete during peak times and share it. But they will be ahead of the 'Lite' customers in priority.

 

[K5lwq]

That's 'Residential Lite' plan. That's why the data is deprioritized. The standard 'Residential' plan doesn't have deprioritized data. That said, the system has a fixed pipe and all 'Residential' customers will compete during peak times and share it. But they will be ahead of the 'Lite' customers in priority.

My bad. Guess I didn’t realize there was a lite plan. I have no idea then.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Does it really matter? We're kinda stuck with it unless we want to cancel service. And most folks with Starlink have very few alternatives. Corporations have you by the short hairs and can do what they want, mostly.

Corporations have us by the short hairs? Come on, if it weren't for that corporation investing in the low orbit satellites my family would be stuck with crappy cell phone wifi. If corporations aren't going to take the initiative who is going to do it, the government? I for one am grateful for the service offered at the price it's offered. You can always cancel in protest.

 

[sodamo]

Believe me, as soon, if ever, as fiber gets to us this dish is gone. Man, fiber is SOOOOO much cheaper per month.

Have a neighbor not far away, has fiber, well sorta. Went down in storm almost 2 weeks ago and still not fixed. Wife works from home and seriously considering Starlink as backup. Their cell is not good either.

 

[BigBlue1]

Corporations have us by the short hairs? Come on, if it weren't for that corporation investing in the low orbit satellites my family would be stuck with crappy cell phone wifi. If corporations aren't going to take the initiative who is going to do it, the government? I for one am grateful for the service offered at the price it's offered. You can always cancel in protest.

You're apparently badly misreading the context of my comments.

I'm talking specifically about their Terms of Service not about what products are offered/created. What input does a customer have to pick & choose the Terms of Service they agree to when they want a product or service? You either accept what the company presents or you don't use the service. There are no options beyond that. That's what I'm referring to. That's true for any company and any service. You as a customer have no say in the terms other than to fully accept them (legally) or fully cease use. And for Starlink in particular, which is often an "only viable option" for customers who use it, not using the product isn't really an option even if you don't fully like the terms unless you're going to stand so firm on your convictions that you go without good Internet. So, yes, corporations have customers by the short hairs. You agree or you don't consume the service. It's not that complicated.

 

[NoTrespassing]

You're apparently badly misreading the context of my comments.

I'm talking specifically about their Terms of Service not about what products are offered/created. What input does a customer have to pick & choose the Terms of Service they agree to when they want a product or service? You either accept what the company presents or you don't use the service. There are no options beyond that. That's what I'm referring to. That's true for any company and any service. You as a customer have no say in the terms other than to fully accept them (legally) or fully cease use. And for Starlink in particular, which is often an "only viable option" for customers who use it, not using the product isn't really an option even if you don't fully like the terms unless you're going to stand so firm on your convictions that you go without good Internet. So, yes, corporations have customers by the short hairs. You agree or you don't consume the service. It's not that complicated.

I clearly understand your comments and the context of your comments.

If I don't like their terms of service I have several options.

1.) I can cancel the service and go back to cell phone hotspot. There are several available, but none are as fast, reliable, unlimited, or low latency as Starlink.
2.) Move to a location with better internet
3.) Go without internet

It just bothers me when a "corporation" develops something and fills a void and then people complain about that corporation. We have choices and if it weren't for Starlink I would have one less choice. And for me, it's the very best choice so far.

My neighbors are constantly complaining about their internet and always asking me how well the Starlink works. I try not to talk it up to them because I'd rather have the bandwidth for myself. Last night I had about 100 down 35 up and 24ms latency.

 

[newbury]

Just don't let your "short hairs" get near them.

 

[BigBlue1]

I clearly understand your comments and the context of your comments.

If I don't like their terms of service I have several options.

1.) I can cancel the service and go back to cell phone hotspot. There are several available, but none are as fast, reliable, unlimited, or low latency as Starlink.
2.) Move to a location with better internet
3.) Go without internet

It just bothers me when a "corporation" develops something and fills a void and then people complain about that corporation. We have choices and if it weren't for Starlink I would have one less choice. And for me, it's the very best choice so far.

My neighbors are constantly complaining about their internet and always asking me how well the Starlink works. I try not to talk it up to them because I'd rather have the bandwidth for myself. Last night I had about 100 down 35 up and 24ms latency.

I think we're basically saying the same thing but in two unique ways. Your 3 'options' are the same as mine... You don't like the terms you drop the service.

And I'm not complaining about Starlink. I love it. I don't think anyone else here was either. I just pointed out that people who are worried about the change in terms really shouldn't spend cycles being bothered by it because it doesn't matter. The terms are the terms and you need to deal with it because most likely you're not going to drop Starlink over them.

 

[BigBlue1]

Just don't let your "short hairs" get near them.

Well, metaphorically you're putting them in their hands when you decide to cozy up to them to get their service. Which also fits other more literal situations.

 

[IXLR8]

Believe me, as soon, if ever, as fiber gets to us this dish is gone. Man, fiber is SOOOOO much cheaper per month.

Have you priced fiber in your area? I have fiber on my street. It is $8500 to connect (1/4 mile long driveway) and then it is $150/month for 200Mb/s max service. Most of my neighbors get half that.
Starlink is cheaper and faster for me.

 

[newbury]

Have you priced fiber in your area? I have fiber on my street. It is $8500 to connect (1/4 mile long driveway) and then it is $150/month for 200Mb/s max service. Most of my neighbors get half that.
Starlink is cheaper and faster for me.

Agree - different locations have different rates. When I looked into Fiber for my house in Alexandria, Va last year it was $100+/mo, now Verizon has a rate as low as $35/mo for 300Mbps if I do autopay and bundle w/ cell phone plan. Whereas my house in Ms. is on a $55/mo 300 Mbps.

 

[ultrarunner]

You're apparently badly misreading the context of my comments.

I'm talking specifically about their Terms of Service not about what products are offered/created. What input does a customer have to pick & choose the Terms of Service they agree to when they want a product or service? You either accept what the company presents or you don't use the service. There are no options beyond that. That's what I'm referring to. That's true for any company and any service. You as a customer have no say in the terms other than to fully accept them (legally) or fully cease use. And for Starlink in particular, which is often an "only viable option" for customers who use it, not using the product isn't really an option even if you don't fully like the terms unless you're going to stand so firm on your convictions that you go without good Internet. So, yes, corporations have customers by the short hairs. You agree or you don't consume the service. It's not that complicated.

It does depend on how much your business is worth?

I tried for years to get Fiber but no go.

Then my brother was lead on a 245 home subdivision in the same county and Comcast wanted to be part of that.

My brother told Comcast all the trouble I was having so he was not sure about Comcast for the development.

To make a long story short I got my Fiber… had to agree to a 5 year deal but without my brothers leverage it never would have happened…

See similar when communities band together…

 

[BigBlue1]

It does depend on how much your business is worth?

I tried for years to get Fiber but no go.

Then my brother was lead on a 245 home subdivision in the same county and Comcast wanted to be part of that.

My brother told Comcast all the trouble I was having so he was not sure about Comcast for the development.

To make a long story short I got my Fiber… had to agree to a 5 year deal but without my brothers leverage it never would have happened…

See similar when communities band together…

Sure, that type of stuff may happen. But that's a whole other type of scenario than an end-user signing up for a service and needing to agree to terms of service. Any single end user has ZERO sway over the company offering the service. You can certainly try to band together or work an angle like your brother did but that's not the topic of this situation.

 

[NoTrespassing]

Sure, that type of stuff may happen. But that's a whole other type of scenario than an end-user signing up for a service and needing to agree to terms of service. Any single end user has ZERO sway over the company offering the service. You can certainly try to band together or work an angle like your brother did but that's not the topic of this situation.

Terms of service change all the time. It just so happens that Starlink is the only company offering low earth orbit satellite internet service at this time.

Then there is Amazon, competition is a good thing for the consumer.

Everything you need to know about Amazon Leo, Amazon’s satellite broadband network

Get answers to your questions about how Amazon will provide internet connectivity from space.

www.aboutamazon.com

MSN

 

[BigBlue1]

Terms of service change all the time. It just so happens that Starlink is the only company offering low earth orbit satellite internet service at this time.

Then there is Amazon, competition is a good thing for the consumer.

Everything you need to know about Amazon Leo, Amazon’s satellite broadband network

Get answers to your questions about how Amazon will provide internet connectivity from space.

www.aboutamazon.com

MSN

This is a confusing conversation. You bring up things like they are new and contradictory and adding something but are exactly what I've been talking about.

Yes, terms of service change all the time. And customers have f*** all to do about what those terms are, except to stop being customers. Which is why I originally said the change in terms didn't really matter.

 

[NoTrespassing]

This is a confusing conversation. You bring up things like they are new and contradictory and adding something but are exactly what I've been talking about.

Yes, terms of service change all the time. And customers have f*** all to do about what those terms are, except to stop being customers. Which is why I originally said the change in terms didn't really matter.

I'm pointing out that Starlink customers may have another option in 2026-2027. At that point, if Amazon's terms of service are more desirable the customer can switch to something very close to their service.

It could end up being much like Dish vs Direct in their heyday.

My post wasn't directed at you per se. No hard feelings, I'm out...