Coyote hunter experts???

[Rockbadchild]

Unless your dog's job is to take out coyotes as necessary. Livestock Guardians for example

yes... these dogs are train to or instinctively won't chase them in the bush where they can be ambush which is key... the dog size doesn't matter if they run in their trap he is dead.

 

[Eagle1]

yes... these dogs are train to or instinctively won't chase them in the bush where they can be ambush which is key... the dog size doesn't matter if they run in their trap he is dead.

I've one of mine take on 5 and move them way out into the woods. 2 or more will bring some home in bad shape.
A neighbors Great Pyr killed 4 in one night and there is this guy
Stacked up against pack of coyotes, herd dog kills 8 to save sheep

I do everything I can to stack the odds correctly, before they set off into brush, but my Karakachan in his prime would leave the rest in dust and it would over before they caught up.

 

[oosik]

Many years ago I got two blue healers. Given to me from a friend who with his wife was moving back to the Philippines. Together those two dogs would hunt and kill coyotes.

Just like a cat will play with a mouse - before it is killed. Those two would drag a wounded coyote into the yard. Grab, bite, drag, - it's was a frightening thing to hear in my yard - late at night.

There must have been something in their past that led to this kind of activity.

 

[Rockbadchild]

I've one of mine take on 5 and move them way out into the woods. 2 or more will bring some home in bad shape.
A neighbors Great Pyr killed 4 in one night and there is this guy
Stacked up against pack of coyotes, herd dog kills 8 to save sheep

crazy he was only 2 years old too

yeah they are a real animals but they have the hold their ground instinct... they push them off rather then chasing them, coyote or wolf try to get chased by the dog then once that happen they get jumped on all side, once they get to the bush line, these dogs won't let that happen they chase a bit but then retreat back to the herd, that's what I was trying to say... if that doesn't happen the dog size wont make a difference ...

 

[oosik]

I use to do Geocaching. One miserable, snowy day - wife and I went searching for a Geocache down south of me.

Got close - so I parked the Jeep and began searching on foot. Huddled behind a large rock to avoid the snow storm. It was a REAL storm.

Heard a low, strong "woof". Very close. Turned and there was a very large, white, furry Great Pyrenees. I almost had a digestive incident.

What a surprise. Man - was I ever glad the dog was friendly. This dog was one of three - owned by a local fellow who raises sheep.

He had three Great Pyrenees and two donkeys to guard his flocks of sheep.

 

[Eagle1]

crazy he was only 2 years old too

yeah they are a real animals but they have the hold their ground instinct... they push them off rather then chasing them, coyote or wolf try to get chased by the dog then once that happen they get jumped on all side, once they get to the bush line, these dogs won't let that happen they chase a bit but then retreat back to the herd, that's what I was trying to say... if that doesn't happen the dog size wont make a difference ...

Yeah at 2 he was not even fully grown my last two males gained near 4" at the shoulder after age 2.
Behavior depends, if there are more than one they may take different path. One stays the others hunts. If they are part time outside guards (situation for years) they are much more adventuresome. Until recently they would run their perimeter patrol through the woods and any intruder would be sought out and removed. If coyotes were in with the neighbors cattle the dogs would go out and remove the yotes from the 400 ac pastures without ever exciting the cattle.
The next generation coming up will have a different role after I retire. More outside with smaller patrols.
Right now I have my old Karakachan (aged out at 12 and house dog), 2 mostly Great Pyrs, a giant Great Pyr/Anatolian (Kangal) and 2 six month old Anatolians all ready over 70#

 

[JeepHead]

I use to do Geocaching. One miserable, snowy day - wife and I went searching for a Geocache down south of me.

Got close - so I parked the Jeep and began searching on foot. Huddled behind a large rock to avoid the snow storm. It was a REAL storm.

Heard a low, strong "woof". Very close. Turned and there was a very large, white, furry Great Pyrenees. I almost had a digestive incident.

What a surprise. Man - was I ever glad the dog was friendly. This dog was one of three - owned by a local fellow who raises sheep.

He had three Great Pyrenees and two donkeys to guard his flocks of sheep.

Great Pyrenees are a force to be reckoned with! My sister has two of them and a pack of coyotes is no match for even ONE. Her big male will decimate a pack of yotes without working up a sweat... Their coat is so thick it's difficult for anything to penetrate it, which is a good defense...

 

[Rockbadchild]

Yeah at 2 he was not even fully grown my last two males gained near 4" at the shoulder after age 2.
Behavior depends, if there are more than one they may take different path. One stays the others hunts. If they are part time outside guards (situation for years) they are much more adventuresome. Until recently they would run their perimeter patrol through the woods and any intruder would be sought out and removed. If coyotes were in with the neighbors cattle the dogs would go out and remove the yotes from the 400 ac pastures without ever exciting the cattle.
The next generation coming up will have a different role after I retire. More outside with smaller patrols.
Right now I have my old Karakachan (aged out at 12 and house dog), 2 mostly Great Pyrs, a giant Great Pyr/Anatolian (Kangal) and 2 six month old Anatolians all ready over 70#

very cool... I see...I would like to add and I am sure you will agree is their first encounter is the most crucial, often can be a due or die, once they get some experience it's a different game. It is also night and days when you have a vetted dogs to show them the way... our situation is also different since our coyote are often a lot bigger then normal coyote since we have coyodog and coyowolf and straight up wolf, we also have the normal small size coyote which are very small.

One of my buddy had a cane Corso and he stood no chance against a wolf... he was doing his patrol and it was his first encounter, he didn't get a second chance ... a other of my buddy has a huge Newfoundland German shepherd mix. One day he saw his dog chasing a small wolf on his proprety, he immediately started chasing his dog and at some point his dog stop right in his tracks... something was wrong, at that point my friend got his hand on his dog and when he looked around they were surrounded by wolfs ... he shouted at them and they scattered away. I doubt very much his dog would've win that fight if he wouldn't been there. That dog is very vetted, he is doing his patrol every day at dawn and in the morning, that day they where waiting for him. When he started doing his patrol he wasn't barking and one time he spooked a bear and he got clawed pretty badly, now he's barking while he do his patrol. I agree that none of these two dogs are great Pyrenees but still I don't think you can let a young Pyrenees do his thing and expect nothing to happen to him on his first encounter without proper guidance.

 

[Eagle1]

very cool... I see...I would like to add and I am sure you will agree is their first encounter is the most crucial, often can be a due or die, once they get some experience it's a different game. It is also night and days when you have a vetted dogs to show them the way... our situation is also different since our coyote are often a lot bigger then normal coyote since we have coyodog and coyowolf and straight up wolf, we also have the normal small size coyote which are very small.

One of my buddy had a cane Corso and he stood no chance against a wolf... he was doing his patrol and it was his first encounter, he didn't get a second chance ... a other of my buddy has a huge Newfoundland German shepherd mix. One day he saw his dog chasing a small wolf on his proprety, he immediately started chasing his dog and at some point his dog stop right in his tracks... something was wrong, at that point my friend got his hand on his dog and when he looked around they were surrounded by wolfs ... he shouted at them and they scattered away. I doubt very much his dog would've win that fight if he wouldn't been there. That dog is very vetted, he is doing his patrol every day at dawn and in the morning, that day they where waiting for him. When he started doing his patrol he wasn't barking and one time he spooked a bear and he got clawed pretty badly, now he's barking while he do his patrol. I agree that none of these two dogs are great Pyrenees but still I don't think you can let a young Pyrenees do his thing and expect nothing to happen to him on his first encounter without proper guidance.

On point the first is the hardest they will teach the young. Wolves are whole different thing few if any single dog would match up, Caucasian Shepard might do ok. Black bears will mostly intimidate, brown bear no chance. If wolves are a problem you need a pack to guard against one or two. A full wolf pack is force of nature, and lethal backup is a must. The dogs will at least warn you and give you a chance.

 

[oosik]

We came down from Alaska in 1982. Brought our young - 2 YO - Lab with us. One morning - working on building our house. Saw a small coyote come into the yard. Our young Lab was all eyes. This coyote must have been a young female - in heat.

He followed her down into the valley - like she was candy. There were three more down in the valley. Our Lab was the main course for their breakfast.