rswyan
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- Joined
- May 12, 2004
- Messages
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- Location
- Northeast Ohio
- Tractor
- Kubota B2910, Cub Cadet Pro Z 154S, Simplicity 18 CFC, Cub Cadet 782
43F, wet, and cloudy @ 18:00, heading down to around 38F overnight. Around 0.40" of rain since midnight.
Decided to run down to Menards and pick up orders yesterday before it got dark. Woman went along and we hit Save A Lot on the way back, primarily for Half and Half. Back home around 18:00.
Got bird seed and utility tub unloaded and moved into the garage, one bag of seed stowed away in a 5 gallon bucket. Need to come up with a 3rd bucket for some of the seed.
Got dining room table cleared off last night so we can use that to sort out and organize paperwork before getting it filed away which will probably be this evening's task.
I had called the mower shop yesterday to see how the work was progressing on the Cub.
Guy I talked to said that they would be getting to it shortly, within the next couple of days. He asked again what they were going to be doing to it. Told him that it was in to have the valves adjusted and as far as I knew that was all it needed ... although I questioned whether it needed to have any work done on the hydraulic system.
He told me that it was that the recommendation was that hydraulic system (Hydro Gear ZT3400 transmissions) - be serviced @ 100 hours and then again at 400 hours ...
At that point I expressed my displeasure that IIRC the Cub Cadet-supplied Owners Manual seemed to conflict with that. He said he would check into it and get back with me within a couple of days.
After I got off the phone with him, I downloaded a copy of the Owners Manual and verified that it said the hydraulic system was "sealed" and were "maintenance free":
Today he called back and said that:
1. The "less than hour" quoted time and the "less than $100" cost on adjusting the valves was a no-go ... the engine has to be pulled because they can't access all the bolts that they need to ...
2. The hydraulic system does indeed have a pair of spin-on filters (under a pair of plastic covers located on each transmission) that are supposed to be changed @ 100 hours ... along with the hydraulic fluid.
I verified that on Hydro Gear's website after I got off the phone with him.
The less than a $100 cost for checking and adjusting the valves has now morphed into a $650 bill.
Told him I was less than happy about that ... particularly that 1. the Owners Manual neglects to mention the Manufactuer's recommended service requirement on the hydros and 2. that the engine has to be pulled to do a maintenance procedure that is required every 500 hours.
I'm not sure what all is involved in pulling the engine - maybe it isn't all that complicated - but it sure seems to me that it potentially provides an abundance of opportunities for something to get missed when reinstalling it.
Just seems nuts to me to have to do that to adjust the valves.
Told him to go ahead and do the hydro service ($277) and let me think about the valve adjustment for a bit.
Think this is probably going to involve me going down to the shop and having a look at it.
This whole episode reduces my confidence in their service department, since I got told one thing initially and which then turned out to be vastly different. Call me funny, but I would think they should already know what's involved, since they service these machines.
Probably also going to involve a call/email/letter to Cub Cadet raising holy heck over those two issues.
On a somewhat light note:
1. Amazon delivered the endoscope earlier today. Got the app downloaded for that and hooked it up to test it. Seems fine ... may play around with it some later.
2. Got a Fedex Tracking Number on the shower base, should arrive at the Massillon Menards tomorrow.
Hope everyone is having a decent Wednesday ...
(Edit - The price I quoted for the hydro service above included pickup and delivery)
Decided to run down to Menards and pick up orders yesterday before it got dark. Woman went along and we hit Save A Lot on the way back, primarily for Half and Half. Back home around 18:00.
Got bird seed and utility tub unloaded and moved into the garage, one bag of seed stowed away in a 5 gallon bucket. Need to come up with a 3rd bucket for some of the seed.
Got dining room table cleared off last night so we can use that to sort out and organize paperwork before getting it filed away which will probably be this evening's task.
I had called the mower shop yesterday to see how the work was progressing on the Cub.
Guy I talked to said that they would be getting to it shortly, within the next couple of days. He asked again what they were going to be doing to it. Told him that it was in to have the valves adjusted and as far as I knew that was all it needed ... although I questioned whether it needed to have any work done on the hydraulic system.
He told me that it was that the recommendation was that hydraulic system (Hydro Gear ZT3400 transmissions) - be serviced @ 100 hours and then again at 400 hours ...

At that point I expressed my displeasure that IIRC the Cub Cadet-supplied Owners Manual seemed to conflict with that. He said he would check into it and get back with me within a couple of days.
After I got off the phone with him, I downloaded a copy of the Owners Manual and verified that it said the hydraulic system was "sealed" and were "maintenance free":
Today he called back and said that:
1. The "less than hour" quoted time and the "less than $100" cost on adjusting the valves was a no-go ... the engine has to be pulled because they can't access all the bolts that they need to ...

2. The hydraulic system does indeed have a pair of spin-on filters (under a pair of plastic covers located on each transmission) that are supposed to be changed @ 100 hours ... along with the hydraulic fluid.
I verified that on Hydro Gear's website after I got off the phone with him.
The less than a $100 cost for checking and adjusting the valves has now morphed into a $650 bill.
Told him I was less than happy about that ... particularly that 1. the Owners Manual neglects to mention the Manufactuer's recommended service requirement on the hydros and 2. that the engine has to be pulled to do a maintenance procedure that is required every 500 hours.
I'm not sure what all is involved in pulling the engine - maybe it isn't all that complicated - but it sure seems to me that it potentially provides an abundance of opportunities for something to get missed when reinstalling it.
Just seems nuts to me to have to do that to adjust the valves.
Told him to go ahead and do the hydro service ($277) and let me think about the valve adjustment for a bit.
Think this is probably going to involve me going down to the shop and having a look at it.
This whole episode reduces my confidence in their service department, since I got told one thing initially and which then turned out to be vastly different. Call me funny, but I would think they should already know what's involved, since they service these machines.
Probably also going to involve a call/email/letter to Cub Cadet raising holy heck over those two issues.
On a somewhat light note:
1. Amazon delivered the endoscope earlier today. Got the app downloaded for that and hooked it up to test it. Seems fine ... may play around with it some later.
2. Got a Fedex Tracking Number on the shower base, should arrive at the Massillon Menards tomorrow.
Hope everyone is having a decent Wednesday ...
(Edit - The price I quoted for the hydro service above included pickup and delivery)
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