Got asked to bid a very unusual project

[Hay Dude]

I didn’t read the entire thread, so I’m sorry if I’m repeating some info.

Even if this work is through the local conservation commission or state environmental agency, you need a dredge permit through the US Army Corps of Engineers. That is definitely a navigable waterway.

OK, I will add that to my meeting with the United States Coast Guard as well as the state and local authorities

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

If anyone spots an Alabama Waterdog...the project is kaput!

 

[MossRoad]

Pretty sure he's good to go on the logjam cleanup.

In fact, they kinda encourage it.

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files.dep.state.pa.us

Just hope he doesn't find: (Yikes that's a list)

Fish. The following species are endangered:

(1) Northern brook lamprey, Ichthyomyzon fossor.

(2) Shortnose sturgeon, Acipenser brevirostrum.

(3) Lake sturgeon, Acipenser fulvescens.

(4) Atlantic sturgeon, Acipenser oxyrhynchus.

(5) Spotted gar, Lepisosteus oculatus.

(6) Hickory shad, Alosa mediocris.

(7) Cisco, Coregonus artedi.

(8) Northern redbelly dace, Chrosomus eos.

(9) Blacknose Shiner (Notropis heterolepis).

(10) Bridle shiner, Notropis bifrenatus.

(11) River shiner, Notropis blennius.

(12) Ghost shiner, Notropis buchanani.

(13) Ironcolor shiner, Notropis chalybaeus.

(14) Blackchin shiner, Notropis heterodon.

(15) Redfin shiner, Lythrurus umbratilis.

(16) Longnose sucker, Catostomus catostomus.

(17) Bigmouth buffalo, Ictiobus cyprinellus.

(18) Black bullhead, Amerius melas.

(19) Mountain madtom, Noturus eleutherus.

(20) Tadpole madtom, Noturus gyrinus.

(21) Northern madtom, Noturus stigmosus.

(22) Burbot, Lota lota (inland populations only).

(23) Threespine stickleback, Gasterosteus aculeatus.

(24) Pugnose Minnow (Opsopoeodus emiliae).

(25) Warmouth, Lepomis gulosus.

(26) Longear sunfish, Lepomis megalotis.

(27) Iowa darter, Etheostoma exile.

(28) Eastern sand darter, Ammocrypta pellucida.

(29) Hornyhead chub, Nocomis biguttaus.

(c) Reptiles and Amphibians. The following species are endangered:

(1) Bog Turtle, Glyptemys muhlenbergii.

(2) New Jersey Chorus Frog, Pseudacris kalmi.

(3) Coastal Plain Leopard Frog complex, Lithobates sphenocephalus/L. kauffeldi.

(4) Eastern Massasauga, Sistrurus catenatus.

(5) Kirtland’s Snake, Clonophis kirtlandii.

(6) Eastern Mud Salamander, Pseudotrion m. montanus.

(7) Northern Rough Greensnake, Opheodrys aestivus aestivus.

(8) Eastern Cricket Frog, Acris crepitans.

(9) Blue-spotted Salamander, Ambystoma laterale.

(10) Southeastern Mud Turtle, Kinosternon subrubrum subrubrum.

(d) Invertebrates. The following species are endangered:

(1) Northern riffleshell mussel, Epioblasma rangiana.

(2) Clubshell mussel, Pleurobema clava.

(3) Dwarf wedgemussel, Alasmidonta heterodon.

(4) Eastern pearlshell mussel, Margaritifera margaritifera.

(5) Rabbitsfoot mussel, Theliderma cylindrica.

(6) Snuffbox mussel, Epioblasma triquetra.

(7) Salamander mussel, Simpsonaias ambigua.

(8) Round hickorynut mussel, Obovaria subrotunda.

(9) Pistolgrip mussel, Tritogonia verrucosa.

(10) Rayed bean mussel, Villosa fabalis.

 

[Hay Dude]

You cannot forget the Bog Turtle (1) !
Apparently I have to have the area “swept” for Bog Turtles.
Local Boy Scout Troop (now has girls, too) will do the sweep and relocate Bog Turtles for a charitable contribution.

 

[paulsharvey]

So down here Gopher Turtles are the main one on land, and they are endangered/protected. Except, apparently, card carrying legit Seminole Indians can remove/kill/eat/whatever, and I've heard of atleast one guy offering that service

 

[tradosaurus]

You cannot forget the Bog Turtle (1) !
Apparently I have to have the area “swept” for Bog Turtles.
Local Boy Scout Troop (now has girls, too) will do the sweep and relocate Bog Turtles for a charitable contribution.

Which is why I would never have my sons in "Boy" Scouts today. What an embarrassment.

 

[MossRoad]

You cannot forget the Bog Turtle (1) !
Apparently I have to have the area “swept” for Bog Turtles.
Local Boy Scout Troop (now has girls, too) will do the sweep and relocate Bog Turtles for a charitable contribution.

Cute little buggers. Pretty limited habitat.

https://www.naturalheritage.state.pa.us/factsheets/11522.pdf

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Our boy scout troop always had some girls doing stuff with the guys even before they officially allowed girls. Now they call it Scouts, not Boy Scouts. The problem was the old "girl scouts" are just artsy crafty stuff, and there are girls that want to camp out and do outdoors stuff like the boys. But even before they allowed girls in Scouts, there was already Venture troops that were coed, so not a big change. They still keep the troops separate, boy troop and girl troop. My biggest complaint is Scouts became risk adverse, couldn't do things they used to do because of risk. Boy scouts would not let me canoe, because I couldn't pass the swim test. As a kid in 4H I canoed all the time, just had to wear a life vest. I can swim enough to dive in the deep end and get out of a swim area, but since I couldn't swim far enough to pass a swim test the boy scouts would not let me in over my knees. The biggest downfall of Scouting was other things they started allowing, and many organizations stopped sponsoring troops. Self inflicted downfall, but they won't man up and admit it.

Good luck with the creek cleanup.

 

[scootr]

Funny story:
I came home from work one day and there was a white car parked near my gate and man in a pith helmet with a clipboard on his hands and knees in the ditch across the street. I got out and asked what he was doing. He explained that Verizon was going to trench a cable up the road and he was looking to see if any endangered species would be affected. Said he was looking for checker spotted butterflies. When asked if found any he replied no. I turned and pointed to my truck, Well there's about 50 of them plastered on the front of that truck over there and 10 more I tried to wash off the windshield. You better check your car too...

 

[dodge man]

Haydude, this has turned even funnier. When you joked and talked about checking with the coast Guard I almost posted “check with the Boy Scouts too”. I decided it wasn’t that funny though but reality is funnier yet. Maybe a Boy Scout merit badge is in order and they’ll move that log jam for you for free.