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ultrarunner
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Seeing is believing... most of the ROTC programs are long gone too...
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I used to quail and dove hunt in the CA high desert.
Plenty of both of them back in the day. But not much to eat.
Really it was better shooting than eating them. lol
Plenty of both of them back in the day. But not much to eat.
Really it was better shooting than eating them. lol
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As luck would have it I just received my WA property tax bill.
Washington tax bill is now over 20k ($20,304.35)
It just might be prohibitively too expensive to leave California after all.
Washington tax bill is now over 20k ($20,304.35)
It just might be prohibitively too expensive to leave California after all.
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We used to just breast the birds out. But the bag limits were high and there was plenty for a family dinner. They were a challenge to hit though.
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I have friends that travel California roads to the range with guns in locked boxes in vehicle and no issues...
The bigger problem is the ranges continue to close... several were long established but park said no longer in keeping with the mission if the park...
The bigger problem is the ranges continue to close... several were long established but park said no longer in keeping with the mission if the park...
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Ugh. IIRC, Washington State has no State income tax, so maybe they have to make it up elsewhere. (Are WS sales taxes high too?) Doesn't seem fair to out of state property owners unless there's an exemption of some sort.
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My property taxes are locked in (1978 CA proposition 13) and cannot go up more than 2% per year. I started paying $3k a yr 25 yrs ago. It's up to 4k now or $11 a day. by the way 20k is $55 a day rounded up.
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As others answered, the 40% state estate tax thing is wrong.
All the people I know who moved out of CA did so because the greater SF bay area (where I have lived most of my life) got too expensive for them. It's a huge long standing problem and there's little movement on fixing it. Too many people want to live here and can afford to pay what it takes.
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Same reason I don't drive a Lambo... So what's the problem?
No problem, I don't even want a Lambo or an overpriced home in SF valley. lol
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Vacant units and depressed prices are cause to fear more defaults in cities like SF...
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There are so many reasons and descriptions why I left CA that it would be impossible to fit here. Maybe instead summarize that moving to Northern Nevada was a very good decision we are quite pleased with.
Just one example, are others aware you need a government issued "permit" to purchase a box of ammo? In addition to the regulations and description below, I have been told that you can only purchase handgun ammo in the caliber that your REGISTERED handgun is chambered for. So if you own a .38 that was inherited from grandpa, unless you register it with the State, you cannot buy any .38 ammo any more.
From the linked article:
California voters had in 2016 approved a ballot measure requiring gun owners to undergo initial background checks to buy ammunition, and pay $50 for a four-year ammunition permit.
Legislators amended the measure to require background checks for each ammunition purchase, starting in 2019.
Just one example, are others aware you need a government issued "permit" to purchase a box of ammo? In addition to the regulations and description below, I have been told that you can only purchase handgun ammo in the caliber that your REGISTERED handgun is chambered for. So if you own a .38 that was inherited from grandpa, unless you register it with the State, you cannot buy any .38 ammo any more.
From the linked article:
California voters had in 2016 approved a ballot measure requiring gun owners to undergo initial background checks to buy ammunition, and pay $50 for a four-year ammunition permit.
Legislators amended the measure to require background checks for each ammunition purchase, starting in 2019.
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Maybe one more Nevada vs. California comparison:
A few years ago, we built a luxury residence in Nevada, over 5,000 sq ft. Brand new construction-- building permit cost was $3,100.
I am currently considering whether or not to build a 1,200 sq ft residence in California. Less than 25% of the size of our Nevada home. Building permit cost in CA is $16,000, which is a "bargain" since it is an "ADU" onto an existing property (accessory dwelling unit.) Common term used here is a granny flat.
Had we considered building the same luxury residence in CA, the base building permit cost would be $40,000-- before they started adding requirements to improve local access roads, etc. I did not get too far in the process but estimated the administrative and permitting costs, all in, would be nearly $200,000.
The fees are ... what they are ... my reason for leaving CA was how that money is then used ... which involved spending it in ways that I do not agree with.
A few years ago, we built a luxury residence in Nevada, over 5,000 sq ft. Brand new construction-- building permit cost was $3,100.
I am currently considering whether or not to build a 1,200 sq ft residence in California. Less than 25% of the size of our Nevada home. Building permit cost in CA is $16,000, which is a "bargain" since it is an "ADU" onto an existing property (accessory dwelling unit.) Common term used here is a granny flat.
Had we considered building the same luxury residence in CA, the base building permit cost would be $40,000-- before they started adding requirements to improve local access roads, etc. I did not get too far in the process but estimated the administrative and permitting costs, all in, would be nearly $200,000.
The fees are ... what they are ... my reason for leaving CA was how that money is then used ... which involved spending it in ways that I do not agree with.
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