Solar Farm #2, dangers involved.

[Hay Dude]

If it's all prime farmland why are there trees and scrub growing on it?

Because farming is a risky, low paying way of life. Droughts, floods, low commodity prices, high input prices, high fuel & insurance prices.
Thats why.

Doesn’t mean covering them with inefficient, chinese made, only work 1/3rd the day solar panels is the answer, either.

 

[Rustyiron]

You don’t understand my point because you only see your point. You use environmental damage in support of your argument but fail to mention that farming has an environmental impact also. Either you are unhappy that you are not getting any financial gain in this project or you are jealous of your neighbors good fortune.

You seem to be unable to distinguish "environmental damage" from harvesting a crop that has a 30 year cycle. Planting thousands of cement support bases and amending the soil with Portland cement for structural support alone is permanently killing the soil. That land will never grow any food again, ever!

 

[Sigarms]

Doesn’t mean covering them with inefficient, chinese made, only work 1/3rd the day solar panels is the answer, either.

At the end of the day, if it is your land and you own it, it's yours do as you wish IMO. If you can make money with solar panels and you want to lease your land out, no one should be able to tell you that you can't IMO.

Don't get me wrong, a new pig farm next door could be an issue with the smell, but if it was already there when you bought the land, that's on you and not the pig farmer.

 

[Hay Dude]

They need this immensely large power generation to power the immensely dense 15 minute cities they're planning. For those who can't do it themselves.

In the past few months I've made it my mission to reduce my grid dependence to zero. I started with a power meter that clamps onto my main supply lines, so I could monitor what I'm using. That has proven extremely insightful to determine what my actual power usage is, and identify large power items.

I picked up 18 panels second hand, 240w for 60 a pop. I'm going to build a 4.2kw array and a grid tie inverter, and that should cover me for the bulk of my use.

Solar isn't bad. The implementation of solar is. How else can you be your own power plant?

I agree with that. Solar is great for individual homes, but it sucks for massive power generation.
Yet these clowns continue to pee on our heads and tell us it’s raining!

Chinese made solar panel energy production does 3 things:
Make China richer & more powerful
Makes our energy grid less reliable
Destroys the earth manufacturing them, placing them in fields and disposing of them

 

[Sigarms]

The company doing this keeps repeating that it will pay out around $18 million to people in the county over the next twenty years. This will only go to three families.

If your daughter and sister in law were one of the 3 families getting paid, would you feel any differently?

 

[Hay Dude]

At the end of the day, if it is your land and you own it, it's yours do as you wish IMO. If you can make money with solar panels and you want to lease your land out, no one should be able to tell you that you can't IMO.

Don't get me wrong, a new pig farm next door could be an issue with the smell, but if it was already there when you bought the land, that's on you and not the pig farmer.

No, not so sure about that.
We have 10 different agencies up our behinds 7 ways to Sunday regulating us about polluting. Solar panels cause pollution and land/environmental destruction, so someone very well should be able to tell you if you can and can’t do that.

 

[Hay Dude]

If your daughter and sister in law were one of the 3 families getting paid, would you feel any differently?

We can’t turn a blind eye to the downside of solar power and start believing in all this notion of “its for the greater good” crap.
Solar power has too many downsides for the vast majority of us to worry about a few people becoming rich

 

[ddbackhoe]

At the end of the day, if it is your land and you own it, it's yours do as you wish IMO. If you can make money with solar panels and you want to lease your land out, no one should be able to tell you that you can't IMO.

Don't get me wrong, a new pig farm next door could be an issue with the smell, but if it was already there when you bought the land, that's on you and not the pig farmer.

Except, what we as a whole do best is decide for you what is best. Our system has created this area of expertise where everyone but you knows whats best for you. Unfortunately, we are currently seeing the worst of this system where the government has gotten to the point of being the final authority and even the courts are holding little to no sway over the “elected” leaders.

 

[Hay Dude]

From what I've learned about Solar and Wind Farms, they are all about spending Government money without any regard to what happens once that money is spent. Once you get it, you have to spend it!!! In the few cases that I've looked into, once that Government money runs out, they all go broke because none of them generate enough power to be profitable. Since the Government is paying for everything, there is no desire to invest money to improve the technology. And probably the most important factor is who is getting rich from all of this. Follow the money and it all leads to China. When a politician pushes green energy, odds are very good that somebody in his family is getting money from China.

Amen. The subsidizing of this solar push just means taxpayer money is needed to make it work because it’s not profitable on its own, even with the solar equipment being made in China with questionable labor practices!
We are in the final days of burying this country in chinese solar panels for questionable reasons and outcomes. Just a very few big people, and we know who they are, get rich and paid-off off this scheme.

 

[dodge man]

I have a problem with people objecting to things for various reasons. Made in China? Some people go out of their way to buy American made but most don’t. Clear cutting land? That’s been going on for a while in the US.

Most of the time the solar farm puts up a bond so the removal of the panels would be paid for if the company defaults.

I wish people would just come out and say “we don’t want to look at them”. At least they’d be honest. Would it be better if it were a coal plant, a factory, a 500 unit condo?

Im sure I’d hate it too if one of these things was going up near me. It would be 100% because they’d be an eyesore and nothing else.