Gov't mandates gas can flame arrestors.

[scootr]

More govt control is always their answer. Ha ha ha. I say dump all the confiscated drugs in a big pile and let them have it. This will accomplish so much! First supply will exceed the demand and the price will fall so hard there will be no more smuggling. 2nd all the addicts will kill themselves thus reducing the US carbon footprint and national budget. I say I got a win win idea and it's not political anybody can do it. And it might save the planet.

 

[03blkvert]

I will not post what I really think.

My thoughts exactly!!!

 

[logixjock]

When someone pours gas on a brush pile or a fire pit, they are going to standing in the midst of a lot of flammable vapor. I'm not so sure that a flame arrestor on a gas can is going to save them at that point.

I have an awesomely funny story that involves a 5th of Canadian Club, a sketchy old wooden ladder, a chainsaw, and pouring gas on a smoldering burnpile, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for encouraging that kind of behavior in anyone else so I'll let everyone just use their imagination. My children are still laughing at me 15 years later...

 

[groundcover]

I have an awesomely funny story that involves a 5th of Canadian Club, a sketchy old wooden ladder, a chainsaw, and pouring gas on a smoldering burnpile, but I wouldn't want to be responsible for encouraging that kind of behavior in anyone else so I'll let everyone just use their imagination. My children are still laughing at me 15 years later...

Amazing that you are around to tell that story! The trifecta of dumb and then some !

 

[GeneV]

Actually, we have significant resources arrayed along our Southern Border - hard working agents armed with various 'high tech' apparatus.

"The 1,951 mile U.S.-Mexico border is the busiest in the world. Each year the our southern border allows in more than 300 million people, approximately 90 million cars, and 4.3 million truck crossings."

Now, image your drive to town via an 'Interstate' with a similar number of vehicles transiting the road.

How would you propose stopping and examining every 'backpack' in every one of those ninety-four+ million vehicles (10,765/hour) for a pill? How would you like to be in that Northbound lane trying to get to the grocery or to your office or farm?

How would you propose the government conduct ten thousand searches per hour?

Th Pot, Heroin, Cocaine, Fentanyl and the like are not coming because the border is weak, but because so many of your fellow Americans are willing to pay for the ****.

Why is that? How can people living in 'the greatest country in the world" (he said) be so miserable as to turn from the reality that is their experience of the American dream to a life of addiction to drugs that put them at risk of incarceration, physical misery and early onset of death? And literally willy to pay through the ass or worse for the ****!

Sounds to me as if we've a medical issue. The Sackler Family figured it out and came up with a Medical solution that diverted lots of the drug traffic from the Southern Boarder to doctors and retail pharmacies in small town America.

Maybe, if we allowed folks to register as addicts and get their fixes from a pharmacy with a government issued photo id card, we could reduce and possibly eliminate any incentive to swallow cocaine condoms or the equivalent and 'sneak across' our border, fly over them in a plane or tunnel under a border wall.

Sure, we'd likely have as many deaths by overdose and such, but we'd end drug traffic across the our borders and slowly eliminate the users without the expense of incarcerating them much less the cost of maintaining the tens of thousands of Drug Police, the costs of trying, convicting and incarcerating the mules and sellers and users as we have done since - what, 1934?

2023 - 1934 = one awfully long 'war on drugs!'

Maybe it's time we tried another strategy?

I tell ya what the problem is, it's all them illegal alienses, injecting themselves with the marijuana drug and then using gas cans around open fires! Crampin our style 'n sheeeeit!

 

[Jstpssng]

This thread was just reopened today. Can we please keep the political BS out of it?

 

[MaxLee]

Then can mandate whatever they want... I use this on all my gas cans

 

[retiredIW]

i took several tubeless tire valves, took out the stem drilled hole on plastic and metal cans several when empty of course, then stuck piece of tie wire through holes in can then through valve stem threaded end on first put kink in wire near base to guide through small drilled hole. Pulled into hole until it popped into place. removed wire of course placed valve cap and wallah non leaking vent. no engineers or congress to figure that out.

 

[MaxLee]

i took several tubeless tire valves, took out the stem drilled hole on plastic and metal cans several when empty of course, then stuck piece of tie wire through holes in can then through valve stem threaded end on first put kink in wire near base to guide through small drilled hole. Pulled into hole until it popped into place. removed wire of course placed valve cap and wallah non leaking vent. no engineers or congress to figure that out.

I heard this before, not sure where. Sound like a good idea

 

[retiredIW]

Wait ok, so what do you mean, like we can't bag on the EPA in this thread? Like I'm not being a smartass, just asking can we only talk here about the pros/cons of flame arrestors as they're mandating?

That is exactly what they are saying Gene

 

[Citydude]

This thread was just reopened today. Can we please keep the political BS out of it?

So political BS is voicing an opinion on a mandate by politicians that haven't had experience with said mandate because someone else handles the yard work. Got it.

 

[scootr]

That is right and I should never have posted that and you guys should have never given me 60 or 70 likes on that post.

 

[AnotherBueller]

Well, that doesn't look to bad. My dads old white gas container had a screen in it. I don't recall it being a problem, but that was over 50 years ago, but dad didn't seemed too perturbed. Have you guys seen to cans where the nozzle attaches at the bottom of the gas can? Do those work alright?

I currently have a couple newer cans that kinda have a love hate relationship, you have to depress a little button, then push a larger chunk of plastic toward the nozzle, that opens a valve that lets the gas flow out, but it vent air while pouring so it fills pretty fast.

I have 3 or 4 old plastic "cans" going on 20+ years old, no valve and no vent when pouring. Easier to work, in that you aim the nozzle at the opening of the gas tank, before you tip it too far, but doesn't have a vent so the gas glug glugs out slower than the two other gas cans. Holding 5 gallons out at arms length to getting to be a bit more effort as i've gotten older and i try to let the engine/exhaust cool a bit before filling

I have two, 1 diesel and one gas. are they easy to use? Not too bad, I don't spill fuel, fill rate is slow & and I have to set the tank on something at the level of the filler opening because holding 5 gal of diesel up with one hand is tiring. I like them because I can clamp the dispensing valve open with a vice grip then I just stand there until the tractor is full.

 

[mrmikey]

I heard this before, not sure where. Sound like a good idea

'Tis, works great

 

[RobbyG]

From:

CPSC Requires Lifesaving Flame Mitigation Devices on Gas Cans and Other Portable Fuel Containers

"Many burn incidents involve liquid fuel used on a backyard fire pit, a campfire, a bonfire or burning trash."

Bruce

Are these going to work like the safety pour spouts & take 3 hands to pour out a thimble full?

 

[RobbyG]

I have these on all my "pre-2009" cans which already have a filter/flame arrestor built in:
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They work great no leaks, good flow rate, and are available for just about any model can.

But oh my they are just TERRIBLE for the environment by having the "potential" for me to leave the spout cap off of my leak free can and having the gas evaporate into the atmosphere. The new auto shut off models are SOOO much better by halving the flow rate and 100% guaranteeing that you spill gas/diesel all over yourself, the floor, and your hot equipment which then subsequently evaporates into the atmosphere, drastically increases chances of a fire and/or a slipping accident, and toxic fuel exposure.

Stepping down from my soapbox now...

Amen to that! I like to what Federal employee approved that.

 

[Jstpssng]

So political BS is voicing an opinion on a mandate by politicians that haven't had experience with said mandate because someone else handles the yard work. Got it.

I believe that the post(s) I was referring to has been deleted or removed.

 

[Rockbadchild]

how about the nasty 2 letter words also? BS

what is wrong with the letters B and S ? are you discriminating against certain letters?

 

[WVH1977]

In todays world, I find myself looking and paying more for older items built years ago that have been cared for or are new old stock. I had a Great Aunt pass a few years ago and my cousin still lives in the house. Everything they have is in pristine condition. I went by there a while back to give him some fresh kale and collards. He asked if I needed any gas cans. They were cleaning out the garage. They we are all new and 20 years old. I took them. I was so excited to get those cans. I use one for diesel and one for gas. I also ended up with with a nice garden hoe that you cannot find anymore!!

 

[scootr]

....in before the lock.