New Tractor Sales Are Declining

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I don't wanna say the demoRATS are crooked
or anything but I think they will have to screw
them in the ground to bury them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

willy
 
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I never understood paying all that money for SXS, UTV, etc.
More practical to buy a used small pickup.
I agree. I don't get it. Friends of mine just bought a razor for $30k. My former employer told me a guy he knows just bought one for $42k .

People have lost their everlovin' minds!
 
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I agree. I don't get it. Friends of mine just bought a razor for $30k. My former employer told me a guy he knows just bought one for $42k .

People have lost their everlovin' minds!
I agree. You have to have $42K too much or are we just seeing huge business write offs here? As in spend it or lose 40% of it to taxes. Remember there are 86k new IRS agents waiting to justify their jobs. :oops:
 
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I agree. I don't get it. Friends of mine just bought a razor for $30k. My former employer told me a guy he knows just bought one for $42k .

People have lost their everlovin' minds!

Rational people when faced with saving at a lower rate than inflation will continue to spend, spend, spend. Thus the reasoning by the uninformed that our economy remains "strong" when in point of fact, no, it is not.
 
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Rational people when faced with saving at a lower rate than inflation will continue to spend, spend, spend. Thus the reasoning by the uninformed that our economy remains "strong" when in point of fact, no, it is not.
Yup! People also tend to try to get ahead of the next trend/bubble, which has the effect of worsening the problem, boy howdy.
 
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I don't wanna say the demoRATS are crooked
or anything but I think they will have to screw
them in the ground to bury them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

willy

The last 100 years of US economic downturns are about evenly distributed between democrats and republicans.
To us common folk whose taxes pay for everything it sure seems like economics ought to connect strongly with politics, but history shows it doesn't.
rScotty
 
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Rational people when faced with saving at a lower rate than inflation will continue to spend, spend, spend. Thus the reasoning by the uninformed that our economy remains "strong" when in point of fact, no, it is not.

I don't see the problem with spending. It seems to me that the problem is with borrowing.
 
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Carrying these points further.....

For the past two years in Middle Tennessee, real estate prices increased at an unprecedented rate as people rushed to buy whatever came on the market due to mortgage interest rates being under 3% for months .... then under 5%. Brokers would list on Friday, have open houses on Sunday and sort through the highest and best offers on Monday with bids significantly over list price.

When the Fed started raising rates, the bidding over list started to be reduced about June and houses are taking weeks instead of days to sell. Asking prices are still at elevated levels even though the 30 year mortgage rate has been over 7% recently. (7.20% this morning).

Although inventory levels have increased somewhat, there appears to be a reluctance to list for sale because many have figured out that their new mortgage payment on a replacement home equivalent to what they already own would double at the inflated price of homes today along with the higher mortgage interest rates, insurance costs, and property taxes not to mention the cost of everything else that eats up household budgets.

It's fairly obvious from Jerome Powell's comments and the increases in the Fed rate that they are attempting to somewhat reset the housing market that they blew up in the first place by lowering rates that much to begin with. Between price increases and interest rate increases, home affordability is at its worst since about 2007 thanks to the Fed. In addition, real estate listing activity has been frozen because people who locked in mortgages at these artificially low 3-5% rates aren't going to refi at higher rates or list their homes for sale when their new mortgage payment on a replacement home would double.

Although the Fed is attempting to partly undo what it caused in the first place, it remains to be seen if listing activity will unfreeze or whether people who locked in these 3-5% rates will just sit tight for the next 30 years or until an unforeseen job loss or death will result in their home being listed for sale.

The worst of all worlds for potential homebuyers would be a real estate market in which listings are few because of these 3-5% mortgage rates for those that have them, high prices because of few listings, and high interest rates because the Fed finally figured out printing too much money too fast causes inflation that they now have to fight by raising rates.
Jerome Bowell is a dope
 
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I'm not good at "reading between the lines" - or I might say I think I am good, but keep gettihg it wrong. What I am saying is I still don't get the point about Deere.

As far as high interest and these poor financial times, the answer to that one is simple.
When the interest rates are high, DON'T BORROW!! Find some other way to get things done.
Because if you borrow when interest rates are high, you'll miss out when they come down.

The economy always oscillates; that's not going to change.
Get in step. It's simple: do not borrow when the rates are high - and you will not be affected by high rates.
Yes, it means fixing old cars and clothes and appliances plus doing without some luxuries. But only this once.
Do it that way once and then you will be ahead of the game.

rScotty

I do business with a very respected lender that will re-write your loan if interest rates drop 2%.

IOW, if you borrow money on a piece of equipment at 6% and rates drop to 4%, they will write you a new loan at 4%.
Another great offer they give is once you have an established track record, they don’t require a personal loan guarantee/signature.
They also offer annual patronage checks for about 2-3% of your portfolio.
That’s why I have stuck with them for 20+ years and they are an integral business partner.
 
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The last 100 years of US economic downturns are about evenly distributed between democrats and republicans.
To us common folk whose taxes pay for everything it sure seems like economics ought to connect strongly with politics, but history shows it doesn't.
rScotty

Well it do today...

But if anyone tries to make the argument that our economy is good right now, and some are trying, I immediately dismiss them. Also, if anyone tries to make the argument that the former administration is the reason for our current economy, also those out there trying, I immediately dismiss them as a moron.

Just because people may not be impacted as much by the economy doesn't mean it isn't in shambles. When people start going back decades to find a worse economy that is a real sign they are a moron.

I have no doubt that people are putting gas and groceries on credit cards like never before just to survive. Where is that going to lead?
 
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