Yesterday. Would you buy and EV?

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   / Yesterday. Would you buy and EV? #451  
I saw a Citroen DS today(yesterday now). Just sitting in a neighborhood in Economy, PA. Kinda neglected. Our neighbors had one when I was a kid.
 
   / Yesterday. Would you buy and EV? #452  
I think the concept of kids not buying cars these days is a bit bias towards the city folks. Both my daughters, and my nephew are college age, and have cars. And most of their friends do as well. I think it's based on where you live. If you're a city dweller, then yeah, you probably won't have as much need for a car. But there's plenty of folks in the burbs and country who will buy cars because they need to to get around.

My eldest has a mini, my youngest has an xterra, and my nephew has a gmc 2500. Each of them have a car that fits their personality. No honda's or other boring vehicles. So the concept that creativity is dead is also a bit far fetched. And I think this is something that has always been this way. Localized pockets of events that the media blows out of proportion to try and further their agenda. But everywhere i look seems to contradict what I'm being told.
 
   / Yesterday. Would you buy and EV? #453  
I saw a Citroen DS today(yesterday now). Just sitting in a neighborhood in Economy, PA. Kinda neglected. Our neighbors had one when I was a kid.
Neat cars that were very popular for their era (which was quite a while). Citroen never really did well in the US, I'm afraid.
I've seen a few over the years...
 
   / Yesterday. Would you buy and EV? #454  
The future, yes, provided the infrastructure to support electrical consumption is every built, and battery technology energy density ever gets past .5KW/kg, better yet 1KW/kg, with also a 10,000 charge cycle life at less that 25% degradation, I'd be on board to pay a 25% premium for a well designed EV vehicle.
Politicians think they can mandate EV's and everything else. NO! Pure evil.
 
   / Yesterday. Would you buy and EV? #455  
If an EV has a real world life expectancy of under 10 years, is that acceptable? If I bought a car and in less than 10 years, I needed to pay $26k for a new battery, I'm honestly not sure what I would do.


A Canadian man went viral after claiming the battery in his $140,000 Tesla died and that a replacement would $26,000.

Mario Zelaya, known as @supermariozelaya, posted about his situation on TikTok where it received nearly 1 million views overnight. The video can be found here.

Zelaya's video comes just weeks after disgruntled Tesla owners in Norway carried out a hunger strike.

Some of their complaints include poor customer service, bubbles in seats, and rust.

Thousands of users commented on the video, many claiming they've experienced issues with their Tesla vehicles also.

Tesla Troubles
In July, Tesla was forced to reimburse a German customer after the vehicle they purchased was deemed a "massive hazard."

A German court made the decision after concluding the driver's assistance system did not "adequately or reliably" recognize traffic obstacles and that the car would repeatedly break which was deemed dangerous in busy urban areas.

In February, the company was forced to recall over 578,000 vehicles after the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said they failed to comply with safety standards and posed a "potential danger" to pedestrians.

Along with safety concerns, Tesla has also faced criticisms over the cost to replace batteries that "outlasted warranties."

Last year, a Finnish man went viral for blowing up his Tesla after he refused to purchase a new battery for $23,000.

After being told that the battery in his 2013 Model S had "outlasted its 8-year warranty" and would need to be replaced, he contacted a Finnish explosives team to blow up the car.
 
   / Yesterday. Would you buy and EV? #456  
The EV manufacturers must come up with a more reasonable plan to replace batteries. 10 years is not adequate and these batteries must be rebuildable...if the EV market wants to sustain.
 
   / Yesterday. Would you buy and EV? #457  
No they won't have to change as long as government dictates you will only purchase EVs. Of course I expect that will change once they find the mineral resources don't exist per our current knowledge.
 
   / Yesterday. Would you buy and EV? #458  
^my suspicion is the manufacturers want batteries that fail and can't be economically replaced after 10 years in order to drive future new car sales.
 
   / Yesterday. Would you buy and EV? #459  
Someone in Norway is going on a "hunger strike" because they don't like their cars?

That's almost the funniest thing I've ever heard.

Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that somewhere in the world, someone is stupid enough to do just about anything, but I'm guessing this lasted about as long as it took them to wish they had a candy bar.

Meanwhile, I've put about 20K miles on my EVs in the last year with no complaints. Mine aren't Teslas. Kia and Chevy have both been great so far. Kia has had a problem with my 2016 Soul EV, but they're not quibbling about the warranty, and rented another EV for me while they do the work, so no complaints.
 
   / Yesterday. Would you buy and EV? #460  
From Bloomberg:

Wind Turbines Taller Than the Statue of Liberty Are Falling Over

Breakdowns of towers and blades have bedeviled manufacturers in the US and Europe.

January 23, 2023 at 3:00 AM CST

On a calm, sunny day last June, Mike Willey was feeding his cattle when he got a call from the local sheriff’s dispatcher. A motorist had reported that one of the huge turbines at a nearby wind farm had collapsed in dramatic fashion. Willey, chief of the volunteer fire department in Ames, 90 miles northwest of Oklahoma City, set out to survey the scene.

The steel tower, which once stood hundreds of feet tall, was buckled in half, and the turbine blades, whose rotation took the machine higher than the Statue of Liberty, were splayed across the wheat field below. The turbine, made by General Electric Co., had been in operation less than a year. “It fell pretty much right on top of itself,” Willey says.

Another GE turbine of the same model collapsed in Colorado a few days later. That wind farm’s owner-operator, NextEra Energy Inc., later attributed it to a blade flaw and said it and GE had taken steps to prevent future mishaps. A spokesperson for GE declined to say what went wrong in both cases in a statement to Bloomberg.

The instances are part of a rash of recent wind turbine malfunctions across the US and Europe, ranging from failures of key components to full collapses. Some industry veterans say they’re happening more often, even if the events are occurring at only a small fraction of installed machines. The problems have added hundreds of millions of dollars in costs for the three largest Western turbine makers, GE, Vestas Wind Systems and Siemens Energy’s Siemens Gamesa unit; and they could result in more expensive insurance policies—a potential setback for the push to abandon fossil fuels and fight climate change.

The race to add production lines for ever-bigger turbines is cited as a major culprit by people in the industry. “We’re seeing these failures happening in a shorter time frame on the newer turbines, and that’s quite concerning,” says Fraser McLachlan, chief executive officer of London-based GCube Underwriting Ltd., which insures about $3.5 billion in wind assets in 38 countries. If the failure rate keeps climbing, he says, insurance premiums could increase or new coverage limits could be imposed.

Damaged blades hang from a wind turbine near Guymon, Oklahoma, in 2021.Photographer: Chris Landsberger/The Oklahoman
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Vestas, GE and Siemens Gamesa have confirmed in statements to Bloomberg and in recent calls with analysts that the push to rapidly develop more powerful turbines has led to challenges. The companies say they are focusing on improving manufacturing operations and have acknowledged that it’s time to tap the brakes on the introduction of designs. “Rapid innovation strains manufacturing and the broader supply chain,” GE CEO Larry Culp said on an earnings call in October. “It takes time to stabilize production and quality on these new products.”

There’s no publicly available industrywide data on turbine failures, making it tough to paint a complete picture of changes in their performance over time. But Vestas and GE have said the shares of their machines in the field that are unable to produce power are elevated, even if it’s still a small proportion of their installed fleets. Siemens Energy revised its earnings outlook for 2023 downward this month, citing higher-than-expected costs caused by flaws in Siemens Gamesa’s installed turbines.

Because wind farms often generate power from scores of turbines across a site, they can continue to produce electricity even if one or more machines go down, limiting the fallout. Still, examples of the machines going awry have garnered public attention. A massive 784-foot-tall turbine in Germany collapsed in September 2021. A big new turbine in Lithuania fell in March 2022. And a blade partially detached on one in Sweden last July.

Orsted A/S, the world’s largest developer of offshore wind farms, asked authorities in April to stop maritime traffic near some of its sites after blades fell from one of its turbines off the coast of Denmark. Shares of Siemens Gamesa, the manufacturer, tumbled on the news.

Larger turbines have helped propel a global expansion that’s seen the installed wind generation capacity surpass 840 gigawatts in 2021, up from less than 100 gigawatts in 2007, according to BloombergNEF data. With builders designing blades as long as a football field to capture more wind energy, developers can install fewer turbines to generate the same amount of power. That’s helped keep project costs down, which is a big reason the price of wind electricity has fallen dramatically in the past decade.

This 784-foot-tall wind turbine in Haltern, Germany, collapsed in 2021.Photographer: TF-Images/Getty Images
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But soaring material costs and supply-chain woes have recently squeezed the balance sheets at leading manufacturers, threatening to slow investment and potentially hobbling the development of the US offshore wind industry before it really gets going. The quality stumbles add to the turbine makers’ challenges.

Siemens Gamesa encountered issues that led to design changes and delays while ramping up production of its largest onshore wind machine, known as the 5.X. In a statement, Siemens Gamesa said it’s addressing the quality and reliability of its products in order to “improve the value proposition to customers.”

Vestas Wind Systems A/S saw annual warranty provisions jump from roughly €600 million in 2019 to almost €1.2 billion in 2020 and 2021. The Danish company says the supply chain wasn’t ready to handle the pace of product introductions by manufacturers, which has contributed to project delays, cost increases and quality challenges. “We need a profitable and scalable wind industry to create a net-zero future, and this requires we continue to mature the entire value chain of renewables,” the company said in a statement.

GE, which reports fourth-quarter earnings on Jan. 24, took a $500 million charge in the third quarter to cover warranty costs and repairs on its turbines. The company has installed turbines capable of producing 40 gigawatts of wind power since 2017, introducing several more powerful machines along the way.

These days manufacturers are focused on producing machines with better reliability, at scale. In an interview this month, Henrik Andersen, the Vestas CEO, said that turbines are big enough for now, and that increasing production will be the key challenge of the next decade. Siemens Gamesa’s CEO Jochen Eickholt has told investors the company is working to increase standardization among its products, to prune a portfolio that had become too broad. GE’s Culp said in the October earnings call that his company is likewise shifting to “workhorse products, so we and our suppliers can implement more repeatable manufacturing processes.”

The pressure to invest in green projects is so intense that breakdown fears haven’t yet slowed the flood of money into wind farms, says Oliver Metcalfe, head of wind research at BloombergNEF. The failure issue has become a concern for bankers and other creditors, however, who may begin to demand higher interest rates, he says. “There’s a hesitancy among insurers and lenders about these big models that haven’t been tested yet,” Metcalfe says. “The technology alarm bells are ringing.”
 
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