Tractors and wood! Show your pics

[John_Mc]

There are 3 of those in town including mine, all behind Kubota L3301 tractors. They seem to be solid winches. I believe that is also what John Mc has, and he is quite knowledgeable about small woodlot production in general, as well as using tractors to cut wood.
I think that you will be glad that you bought it.

Mine is the 35E. They made a few improvements when they came out with the M model. If I remember correctly, something in the clutch or brake linkage was changed, which protected it better and made it more reliable. (I've not had significant problems with mine.)

All of these manufacturers seem to give HP ratings for their winches. I'm not really convinced that's the limiting factor. The 35M is rated for about 16-45 HP. My tractor is 27 HP at the PTO, so I'm in the bottom half of the recommended power range. I don't think I've ever found myself thinking I needed more HP when winching. I don't think I'd want to go much lighter weight or smaller frame, at least not with this size winch. (And yes, I'll admit: there are times I wish I had a bigger tractor, but then there are also times I could not get into all the places I need to with something bigger.)

 

[VroomVroom]

Yes. I’m sure. Hard to beat the j5. Don’t have to remove scrap in your way. Pile the wood as your cutting and drive to pile. But some cases it would be nice with the winch I’d have to say. Always wanted one.

 

[VroomVroom]

Nice for the birch that’s been growing along road side embankments. Logging roads.

 

[VroomVroom]

Mine is the 35E. They made a few improvements when they came out with the M model. If I remember correctly, something in the clutch or brake linkage was changed, which protected it better and made it more reliable. (I've not had significant problems with mine.)

All of these manufacturers seem to give HP ratings for their winches. I'm not really convinced that's the limiting factor. The 35M is rated for about 16-45 HP. My tractor is 27 HP at the PTO, so I'm in the bottom half of the recommended power range. I don't think I've ever found myself thinking I needed more HP when winching. I don't think I'd want to go much lighter weight or smaller frame, at least not with this size winch. (And yes, I'll admit: there are times I wish I had a bigger tractor, but then there are also times I could not get into all the places I need to with something bigger.)

What size is your tractor vs the 2816hst I have? I purchased it years ago for mother but she has since passed away. I found myself always using it for something or other. Godsend for snowblowing where I am.

 

[Gordon Gould]

I think that you will be glad that you bought it.

Me too !

gg

 

[Gordon Gould]

I think that you will be glad that you bought it.

Me too !

gg

 

[John_Mc]

What size is your tractor vs the 2816hst I have? I purchased it years ago for mother but she has since passed away. I found myself always using it for something or other. Godsend for snowblowing where I am.

My NH TC33D and your Mahindra 2816 are basically competing tractors (or would have been, had they been sold in the same years).

They are withing a couple of inches in width. Yours is about 11" longer than mine. Stock rear tires (whether Ag or Industrial) are the same, and front tires are close to the same. I run R4 (industrial) tires, and have some GOOD chains ("Euro" style) for when I need extra traction.

Your tractor is rated for 2205# lift at the lower arm pins. Mine is rated for 1635# at 24" behind the hitch. I suspect the ratings would be fairly close, if they were both measured the same way.

Weight of bare tractors is almost the same: 2816HST = 2458# vs TC33D = 2474# (Mahindra reports "operating weight" vs "shipping weight for NH, but I'm sure they are still very close.)

I have filled the rear tires (adds about 600#, Loader (a Woods model 1012 - about 800#), I also have backhoe subframe, belly pan, limb risers and grill guard probably (wild guess: over 400#). So I'm guessing I'm up at around 4600-4700#. I'm not saying I actually NEED all this weight to safely operate the winch, That's just what my setup weighs. I did use the winch before I had the belly pan, subframe, limb risers and grill guard, and had no problems with the lighter weight.

I assume you have a loader, which will add some weight. I suggest planting your bucket on the ground when winching. It adds some stability. If your rear tires are not filled, you might consider that (or wheel weights) if you find you need the traction or just some extra dead weight to hold it down. The downside is that the added weight can mean more impact if you regularly operate on your lawn. (Not an issue for me: I'm not on the lawn much, and am not really in to the manicured lawn look.)

I really don't think you'll have any problem handling that winch with your tractor. As others have mentioned: just don't abuse it, and think through what you are doing before just jumping in.

As others have already noted, you'll be glad you bought it. If you do much logging at all, you'll wonder how you ever got along without it. There is a reason you don't see many used ones for sale: once people own one, they tend not to give it up.

 

[VroomVroom]

My NH TC33D and your Mahindra 2816 are basically competing tractors (or would have been, had they been sold in the same years).

They are withing a couple of inches in width. Yours is about 11" longer than mine. Stock rear tires (whether Ag or Industrial) are the same, and front tires are close to the same. I run R4 (industrial) tires, and have some GOOD chains ("Euro" style) for when I need extra traction.

Your tractor is rated for 2205# lift at the lower arm pins. Mine is rated for 1635# at 24" behind the hitch. I suspect the ratings would be fairly close, if they were both measured the same way.

Weight of bare tractors is almost the same: 2816HST = 2458# vs TC33D = 2474# (Mahindra reports "operating weight" vs "shipping weight for NH, but I'm sure they are still very close.)

I have filled the rear tires (adds about 600#, Loader (about 800#), I also have backhoe subframe, belly pan, limb risers and grill guard probably (wild guess: over 400#). So I'm guessing I'm up at around 4600-4700#. I'm not saying I actually NEED all this weight to safely operate the winch, That's just what my setup weighs. I did use the winch before I had the belly pan, subframe, limb risers and grill guard, and had no problems with the lighter weight.

I assume you have a loader, which will add some weight. I suggest planting your bucket on the ground when winching. It adds some stability. If your rear tires are not filled, you might consider that (or wheel weights) if you find you need the traction or just some extra dead weight to hold it down. The downside is that the added weight can mean more impact if you regularly operate on your lawn. (Not an issue for me: I'm not on the lawn much, and am not really in to the manicured lawn look.)

I really don't think you'll have any problem handling that winch with your tractor. As others have mentioned: just don't abuse it, and think through what you are doing before just jumping in.

As others have already noted, you'll be glad you bought it. If you do much logging at all, you'll wonder how you ever got along without it. There is a reason you don't see many used ones for sale: once people own one, they tend not to give it up.

Yes I noticed that. Like hens teeth to find used ones. The sub frame is attached to the backhoe on mine. But I built an identical subframe which rests in a c-channel type receiver in the rear and pins under your feet. I then welded a 1/4” plate on that, which flares out between the front and rear tires. It hinges just forward of the front axle and gets bolted on some vertical plates that’s bolted to the front bumper on each side. So it adds 200-300 lbs im sure. I could calculate the weight next time I’m near. I have a front loader on as well. I thought of filling the tires in the past. I still could I suppose. I do like the idea of the unsparing weight. I been thinking of a set of ice chains too when I’m snowblowing they would be good. I’m guessing I’m a little over 3000#. Maybe 3300#.

 

[John_Mc]

Yes I noticed that. Like hens teeth to find used ones. The sub frame is attached to the backhoe on mine. But I built an identical subframe which rests in a c-channel type receiver in the rear and pins under your feet. I then welded a 1/4” plate on that, which flares out between the front and rear tires. It hinges just forward of the front axle and gets bolted on some vertical plates that’s bolted to the front bumper on each side. So it adds 200-300 lbs im sure. I could calculate the weight next time I’m near. I have a front loader on as well. I thought of filling the tires in the past. I still could I suppose. I do like the idea of the unsparing weight. I been thinking of a set of ice chains too when I’m snowblowing they would be good. I’m guessing I’m a little over 3000#. Maybe 3300#.

Your loader weighs 700# (according to Mahindra specs). That brings you to about 3160# before your subframe and belly pan. I think you are in good shape.

 

[LD48750]

Snip........ I thought of filling the tires in the past. I still could I suppose. I do like the idea of the unsparing weight. I been thinking of a set of ice chains too when I’m snowblowing they would be good. I’m guessing I’m a little over 3000#. Maybe 3300#.

What "springs" do you have on your tractor to get sprung weight?

Mine is 100% unsprung.