TC30 Spindle Seal(need a second set of eyes)

[Chris527]

Hi All,
Been a while since I posted, Real quick,I developed a front spindle leak over the winter, a storm was on its way, checked the oil and shook things seemed Ok to run. Did a bit of spring cleanup and decided to look into this.
I was just going to look to see if I had any cracks, wheel was off and decided to just replace the seal. Pulled it apart, seal was toast, the bearing and race also showed wear. it was real gritty in there and where the seal rides shows signs of pitting(UGH). Above that on the spindle, you will see something strange, I originally thought that was part of the seal left on the spindle but not so sure now, I almost started to try to drive it off but stopped because it looks like its part of the spindle, like a dust shield, I have a parts breakdown but shows nothing like that. So is that part of the old seal or is my spindle that bad? It did have rubber in it.



I can't make out where it mates with the spindle. The 3rd photo is from a Youtube clip and his spindle does not have that lip on it. Going to The dealer in the morning to see what they have to say. My eyes suck now that I'm older so any help or suggestions would be appreciated. My TC30 is a 2004 with about 1000 hrs on her.

 

[oldnslo]

I agree with you in that does not look like part of the spindle but also strange shaped for a seal. Hopefully your dealership has some answers for you.

 

[Chris527]

I showed the pic to him, if you look at the bottom, there is a lip, he is sure it is part of the old seal, I will try to get it off later.
Thanks

 

[mrmikey]

Looks like a speedy sleeve SKF

 

[5030]

Next time... Before you take it apart, loft the front end and grab the wheel top and bottom and try to wiggle it up and down and back and forth. Back and forth are the tie rod ends, up and down is the kingpins. Usually the radial seal will start leaking if there is excessive vertical play. FWA is handy until you have to rebuild / rebush it.

 

[Chris527]

Next time... Before you take it apart, loft the front end and grab the wheel top and bottom and try to wiggle it up and down and back and forth. Back and forth are the tie rod ends, up and down is the kingpins. Usually the radial seal will start leaking if there is excessive vertical play. FWA is handy until you have to rebuild / rebush it.

I had checked for play over the winter when I first saw the leak for play or to see if it had cracked someplace, A lot of grit had eventually worked itself in from the top, the seal was VERY brittle.
I'm replacing the top spindle bearing and lower final drive housing bearings while I have it exposed. My dealer had all the parts in stock, he said the same setup is in quite a few models and does a few every month.

 

[Chris527]

Looks like a speedy sleeve SKF

It certainly does look like a wear sleeve, I ended up having to chisel it off, The mating surface was really pitted, looks like over the years water and salt got trapped in and did its job. There is no way of knowing it either until you tear it down and or it starts leaking. I polished it up best I can, hopefully it it will take, that seal is pretty beefy with multiple lips so fingers crossed.

 

[mrmikey]

You're going to resleve it aren't you? If it's pitted, no amount of seals will prevent a leak.......M

 

[Chris527]

You're going to resleve it aren't you? If it's pitted, no amount of seals will prevent a leak.......M

 

[Chris527]

Not sure If New holland offers a sleeve kit for those, I worked on it today and got it looking pretty good, Most of what I was seeing was crappy build up from the old seal, I ended up having 1 little spot that was questionable but was out of the area where the seal rides so back together it went, Time will tell on this.

Chris