Bad Dogs Bad Neighbor

[Hay Dude]

Yeah I mean if you go over to your neighbors house and execute his dog in his front lawn…..thats gonna be trouble for the executioner.

 

[dodge man]

My dad, who grew up during the depression delivered milk as a kid. He was probably 10 years old when this happened. As an adult he was not a big guy and I imagine as a 10 year old was small. When delivering milk to a house a large German Shepherd knocked him down, got on top and tried to bite his face. He got ahold of its collar and twisted hard to keep it from biting him. He choked it to death. The owner came out and my dad was sure he was going to lose his job. The owner said “that was a mean dog anyway” and didn’t do a thing.

 

[murphy1244]

Yep. I pretty much told them I found a dog and tell me the description. No takers at all. Not one call. Anyhow, I named him 'Dog', after the dog in the John Wayne movie 'Big Jake'.

John just lost a good knife!

 

[MossRoad]

John just lost a good knife!

Let him keep it as a reminder.

 

[Diggin It]

In the state of Washington the County Sheriff is the supreme law enforcement authority sstate wide. I think, but not sure it is Federal law. At least that was what I was told in my dispatcher's training.

I heard the same thing, but it's a load of steaming hooey based on how some interpret old English law (Sheriff of Nottingham and all). I've also heard that the only person legally able to arrest an elected Sheriff is an elected Coroner, yet there are all kinds of stories of Sheriffs arrested by state and federal agents.

In practice, the state Attorney General is the top dog.

 

[oldballs]

As nutty as the world is today, one might get a lighter sentence for shooting the "top dog" than shooting the neighbor's dog

 

[lman]

I've been told that the county Prosecutor has the most power in the county but the Prosecutors I've known were too lazy to be any threat.

 

[BnRidge]

One neighbor here had a reputation of killing small animals on his property - rabbits, chipmunks, cats (the neighbors cat, 20yrs later they brought it up, that sob shot my cat), another neighbors dog (earned him a 3day stint in the county jail). Incorrigible is a thing. I've seen others go through life, first they were kids, then ditzy teenagers, then da 20 somethings. Seems once they reach their 30s and have brats of their own something clicks and the horse sht goes away. I would say, go for a walk, how you want, where you want, tend to the task at hand, and get ready to rumble. And ignore the kid and wait for him to age out. Been there done that. And here, all is still not well in some places, but there is a firm and fair unspoken agreement in all.

 

[Torvy]

In the state of Washington the County Sheriff is the supreme law enforcement authority sstate wide. I think, but not sure it is Federal law. At least that was what I was told in my dispatcher's training.

Counties are constructs of the state. Federal law has almost nothing to do with how a state is run. The Washington Attorney General does not agree with your trainer.

https://www.atg.wa.gov/ago-opinions/police

 

[Sigarms]

I don't understand people like that. The niece of a friend got badly bitten by the family dog when she was a toddler. Two dogs and the kid alone in the living room.

When I stated I had no problem putting a dog of mine down if they bit someone unnecessarily, please note I mentioned if the bite occurred in my presence and I observed the incident.

You NEVER, EVER leave a toddler alone in the presence of a dog / dogs. That is a recipe for disaster.

 

[Jstpssng]

You NEVER, EVER leave a toddler alone in the presence of a dog / dogs. That is a recipe for disaster.

I agree. Yet the kid's nephew had something similar happen... and my dog was one of 4 involved.
I had left her with my friend for the day. The dogs and a toddler were out on the porch while the mother was in the house watching "Reba". The father came home and 4 dogs came running to greet him, knocking the kid down 2 stairs to the ground. Fortunately he was just scared, not injured but I always wondered what he was doing with 4 dogs alone.
The woman I was spending time with had 2 grands and a niece all under 3 at the time; every one of them had some type of incident with an animal... the third kid almost died after being kicked in the head by a horse. There seemed to be a pattern...


PS; The part of my comment you left out was just bravado, of course. I'm not one to go looking for trouble.

 

[Torvy]

When I stated I had no problem putting a dog of mine down if they bit someone unnecessarily, please note I mentioned if the bite occurred in my presence and I observed the incident.

You NEVER, EVER leave a toddler alone in the presence of a dog / dogs. That is a recipe for disaster.

There seems to be a lot of blame on the dogs, and (understandably) the owners. Dogs are not new to humanity and everyone should have some understanding of dog behavior. Dogs are pack animals and they are territorial. While I certainly think dog owners need to properly contain their dogs, one of the functions of a dog, especially in the country, is to protect the people and property. Dogs see erratic behavior and unknowns as a threat. To reduce neighbor conflicts, a few common sense actions would be in order. If you are walking a dog in the country, how about you do it on your own property? Our 'neighborhood' is all 15 acres and up. Should be plenty of space to exercise any breed. Walking a dog down the road past other people's dogs just agitates all of the dogs involved. At the very least that incites nuisance barking and can drive even well-trained dogs to become more aggressive. Until a child is old enough to understand and behave safely around dogs, they should not be left alone with them. When I was 3, I pulled our Shetland sheep dog's tail. Predictably, he bit me. Not the dog's fault. Dogs nip each other and their own young to teach. Humans are just a little more vulnerable to those nips.

Like many things in this life, there is some grey area and things are not simply a matter of A or B. Indignantly teasing a dog and then expressing shock and outrage when he bites is wrong. As I stated earlier, this does not absolve the dog owner of responsibility, but more than one person can be culpable.

 

[Jstpssng]

. If you are walking a dog in the country, how about you do it on your own property?

Wow!
Not everybody has 15 acres. Does that mean they shouldn’t own dogs? There have been many dog attacks on people who were alone. These often are fatal. If you have an anti social dog it’s your responsibility to keep it under control at all times by any method necessary. Your property stops at your property line; not on the public road or sidewalk.

 

[Diggin It]

Apparently we have a town constable so I am going to get him involved. And look into the restraining order.

Thanks

That was Monday. This is Thursday.

Progress?

 

[Sigarms]

There seems to be a lot of blame on the dogs, and (understandably) the owners. Dogs are not new to humanity and everyone should have some understanding of dog behavior. Dogs are pack animals and they are territorial. While I certainly think dog owners need to properly contain their dogs, one of the functions of a dog, especially in the country, is to protect the people and property. Dogs see erratic behavior and unknowns as a threat. To reduce neighbor conflicts, a few common sense actions would be in order. If you are walking a dog in the country, how about you do it on your own property? Our 'neighborhood' is all 15 acres and up. Should be plenty of space to exercise any breed. Walking a dog down the road past other people's dogs just agitates all of the dogs involved. At the very least that incites nuisance barking and can drive even well-trained dogs to become more aggressive. Until a child is old enough to understand and behave safely around dogs, they should not be left alone with them. When I was 3, I pulled our Shetland sheep dog's tail. Predictably, he bit me. Not the dog's fault. Dogs nip each other and their own young to teach. Humans are just a little more vulnerable to those nips.

Like many things in this life, there is some grey area and things are not simply a matter of A or B. Indignantly teasing a dog and then expressing shock and outrage when he bites is wrong. As I stated earlier, this does not absolve the dog owner of responsibility, but more than one person can be culpable.

Your post is spot on but took a nose dive noted in red.

We have about 40 acres and live in the "country".

Generally when we walk any dogs, it's on a lead, off the public road.

When it comes to other people's dogs in the "neighborhood", we have every right to use the public roadway to walk for both exercise and to take the dogs who like walks "out". It is not my responsibility to ensure that YOU have your dog either properly supervised or contained on YOUR property.

The added reality from my own experience is that walking a dog on a lead in a public setting is good proper basic education for the dog on how the dog should behave.

Ironically enough, generally always carry either a gun or knife out on our walks just in case someone doesn't control their dog on their own property, and never once had a issue.

I think the most I've had out together in the backyard on our own property is 4, but even then, they all have training collars on and I generally ensure everyone is close by in eyesight. Even then, I can end up shouting a lot if a rabbit goes running off with one dog in pursuit, because the others will follow LOL

 

[gasman1075]

Here is the big question I have for the OP...

Are these idiot neighbors local to the area, or are they those dang relocated city folk? Everyone knows how REAL country folk respect their neighbors and are right neighborly

Honestly, city or country, you will always have idiots.

They have been here about 15 years

 

[gasman1075]

Have you tried just talking to them and see if you can come up with a mutual agreement they leave you alone you leave them alone?

That's not really an option when I see the father I nod we do not exchange any other communication.

 

[gasman1075]

That was Monday. This is Thursday.

Progress?

The dirtbag left a second deposit in the mailbox and we have it on film. SP are coming back to take a second statement and file a second charge. Town Constable was the one to talk to and the town supervisor. I filed a complaint with county Sherriff ( no response ) post office ( call SP ) filed a complaint with the USPS through online form ( no response ). So that is the progress so far. I was out of touch for a few days. I am not afraid of dogs but am certainly wary after being bit more than once as a meter reader. If the dogs come after me on the road they will be dealt with harshly but they generally just bark at me don't get too close. They are not good people and the son is the worst if I catch him on my property it will end poorly for him.

 

[LouNY]

I am surprised that a Sheriffs Deputy didn't come out to talk to you and take a complaint.
I know that around here calling the non-emergency number and stating that you need to see a deputy
and file a complaint that they will be in touch, unless having a constable they left it to him.

 

[deezler]

He.... put a second turd in your mailbox?

Dude needs mental health counseling asap. That's pretty deranged.

Sorry about your troubles, man.