Kubota vs Kioti?

[Hoodoo]

No Bobcat dealer, either?

I just looked it up.....The Kubota dealer apparently sells Bobcats. Aren't they the same as Kioti? Maybe I'll call them tomorrow and see if they have a CT2025.....

 

[Rdrcr]

Regarding the statement that the new prices are "virutually identical," that was certainly NOT the case in 2016 when I bought my NX5510. I was able to get a cab for the price difference between it and a comparable Kubota (I didn't like the feel/layout of the open station on the Kubota- no idea what the cabbed version was, as the increased price would have been outside my target range). NOTE: I'm NOT bashing Kubota- I've got one (and I won't let go of it for anything; but, it's a different tool than my Kioti).

Regarding looking at resale value... I've STILL got my B7800 after about 11 years. And I've STILL got my NX5510 after 5 years. No plan on selling either. Yeah, one day when I'm too old to run them I'll probably have to sell, but who the F knows what things will be like at that point? (raise your hand if four years ago you were prescient enough to know what things are like today [yeah, right]) I buy stuff to USE; my intent is to use it until it's no longer usable: I put in all my time on research up front and have no interest in going through such rigors multiple times (if you're doing so then that could mean that your research abilities might need a bit of scrutiny).

New prices were DEFINITELY the same between the two brands in my area when shopping in 2020 & 2021.

It was, and still is, rather surprising.

Mike

 

[Rdrcr]

I just looked it up.....The Kubota dealer apparently sells Bobcats. Aren't they the same as Kioti? Maybe I'll call them tomorrow and see if they have a CT2025.....

Yes. White instead of Orange. However, the Bobcat uses a proprietary loader but, they are virtually the same tractor.

I would definitely recommend pricing one for comparison.

Mike

 

[coobie]

Interesting .... that Kioti needs a bucket reinforcement cutting edge before it leaves the lot?

Some of us have a Materials bucket and a separate Digging bucket with teeth. I bought a used Bobcat SSL QA bucket for $200 and spent $200 more for CAT teeth to have an effective digging bucket. Swapping buckets with a QA FEL is much easier than trying to remove a tooth bar on a bucket.

I swap among the 2 buckets, my forks, and a trailer hitch receiver on a QA plate frequently. You might find moving rocks with forks is easier.

Don't forget you need to have hooks welded to the bucket top. This also may require a reinforcing plate. I bought the 4 hooks each time on eBay and dropped the bucket & hooks off at my welder. I did the paint when he was done.

It's easy to tell the operators that don't get the hooks welded, they have the buckets crunched in the middle. Some Kubota material buckets in the L series have a lip which can be used for chains, but it's a PIA.

Good luck with that Kioti!

 

[jyoutz]

Those were made by Shibaura. Every one of them.

Even the 9N?

 

[Jchonline]

Yes. White instead of Orange. However, the Bobcat uses a proprietary loader but, they are virtually the same tractor.

I would definitely recommend pricing one for comparison.

Mike

I would recommend just getting a Kioti.

 

[jyoutz]

Most people have not commented much on the fact the Kioti has SSQA standard. I would not own a tractor without SSQA. Been there done that and have the shirt. That alone would keep me from buying that Kubota. With SSQA comes the ability to have forks, grapples etc on your front end. Without it you are screwed.

I think SSQA is now standard for Kubota. At least it is standard for my MX.

 

[jezreel]

I think SSQA is now standard for Kubota. At least it is standard for my MX.

Yep. Mine too.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I just looked it up.....The Kubota dealer apparently sells Bobcats. Aren't they the same as Kioti? Maybe I'll call them tomorrow and see if they have a CT2025.....

Bobcats are Kioti's with bold new graphics, and at least up in my neck of the woods, some thought has gone into cold weather set-up as well. I'd definitely look at the Bobcat version of Kioti if for no other reason than their dealership network and parts distribution.

 

[Hoodoo]

I would recommend just getting a Kioti.

Well after all these months of research, watching videos and bothering you guys on the forum, I finally pulled the trigger.....got approved and sent in the contract back in. Kioti CK2610. Didn't get a chance to look at the Bobcats, but at this point, everything was working so well, I just went for it.

I should have it dropped in my driveway in about 2 weeks...I'll send a picture or two and let y'all know how it rides.

Thanks again all for the help, I appreciate it! And no I won't just disappear now...I found out that this forum has a lot of stuff besides just tractors...

 

[Jstpssng]

That will make you a nice tractor. You say you'll post pictures, but if you are like me, as soon as it gets dropped off you will start working on all of the projects you didn't even realize need to be done.
Congratulations.

 

[jezreel]

Good Job. Good Choice. You’re gonna enjoy it for sure.

 

[airbiscuit]

You are going to have a huge, perpetual smile on your face. Two weeks is lightening fast, but will seem agonizingly slow.
Tractor, loader, box blade +??

 

[Hoodoo]

Yeah, yeah, I know.... I'll be out on the tractor non-stop once it gets here..... But I will stop by to post pics. I hope it has a beer holder. Got the tractor with a loader, box blade for the rear, operators canopy. Maybe will pick up a brush hog later (used). Now I gotta go, looking out my window for a big orange thing heading down the road........

 

[Jchonline]

Well after all these months of research, watching videos and bothering you guys on the forum, I finally pulled the trigger.....got approved and sent in the contract back in. Kioti CK2610. Didn't get a chance to look at the Bobcats, but at this point, everything was working so well, I just went for it.

I should have it dropped in my driveway in about 2 weeks...I'll send a picture or two and let y'all know how it rides.

Thanks again all for the help, I appreciate it! And no I won't just disappear now...I found out that this forum has a lot of stuff besides just tractors...

Great to here. Enjoy and post pics!

 

[airbiscuit]

There's a thread about adding a cooling fan to a canopy on TBN somewhere - just a 12v electric radiator fan. Something like this.

 

[hwkmn05]

Ive owned 2 of each. To be fair, the Kiotis were 45 hp vs 33 hp for Kubota. If lifting and PTO power is important, Kioti has a lot of bang for the buck. For light duty and dependability, Kubota wins by a good margin. To be brief, I had serious issues with first Kioti Injectors sticking open full throttle needing to shut off fuel, and a few hundred hours later, crashing to not start. $2,000 fix. Thats not all. HST is slow and seemed to suck more HP than Kub. The minor issues drove me crazy also, too numerous to mention, but things such as joysticks disconnect, bolts falling out, covers coming loose and overall ergonomically inferior features vs Kubota. Kioti is still a decent tractor, but not for the same $$ IMO.

 

[jyoutz]

I think SSQA is now standard for Kubota. At least it is standard for my MX.

Yeah, before I bought my MX, I shopped several Kubota models. They all had SSQA.

 

[Hoodoo]

I posted these on another thread, but I'll do it here as well.....

 

[rScotty]

I posted these on another thread, but I'll do it here as well.....

Well congratulations. Every time we walk past our 'ol pumpkin orange tractor my wife says buying that tractor was sure a good decision. It changed the way we work.
And the funny thing is that we always had tractors. But the orange one is different somehow.
rScotty