Are we in the USA really this far behind?

[ovrszd]

That's why it is important what meanwhile the delegations in Switzerland are talking about. Hope all will be OK.

I don't see this issue warranting WWIII. Don't think there are enough "powers" willing to bleed over it.

If Ukraine were our neighbor we would protect them. Then our big corporations would infiltrate their commerce and own it. Then those corporations would export at a high price to the U.S.A.

We just hide our bully behavior better than most countries.

 

[ovrszd]

Not to mention the ladies of Ukraine are GORGEOUS.

If I've ever saw one or a pic of one I didn't know it. There are some definite differences in the Gene pool in Europe. We've diluted everything here so it's hard to single out.

 

[ArtMech]

Not to mention the ladies of Ukraine are GORGEOUS.

Be careful! Some of them may do business only.

 

[ArtMech]

I don't see this issue warranting WWIII. Don't think there are enough "powers" willing to bleed over it.

Who knows what's turning in the heads on the other part of globe? In fact, next to my land.

If Ukraine were our neighbor we would protect them. Then our big corporations would infiltrate their commerce and own it. Then those corporations would export at a high price to the U.S.A.

We just hide our bully behavior better than most countries.

Ha-ha-ha!

 

[Agvg]

Yeah….WW-III
Well, maybe not in this time?

Russia have no resources to start a war, today's Russia is not the CCCP who was a superpower.

 

[Hay Dude]

Russia have no resources to start a war, today's Russia is not the CCCP who was a superpower.

100K troops on the border right now. Lots of mean lookin rockets & tanks & planes, too.
Ukrainian people are really tough. They’ll fight back

 

[CalG]

Do they produce any nice tractors in the UKraine?

Not to derail all the politics and talk of wars or anything........;-)

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Thought I better watch this quick before it gets deleted!!!

Nah... you'll get the straight skinny from him.

 

[Agvg]

100K troops on the border right now. Lots of mean lookin rockets & tanks & planes, too.
Ukrainian people are really tough. They’ll fight back

If NATO backs Ukraine he can have as many he likes, all the Russian friends of Putin have almost all theyr money invested in the west, poff, all that are gone, the Russian people are not isolated as in the old days and I'm not sure Putin is so popular, usually it's a big difference between propaganda and real life. A invasion gone wrong will probably end the regime.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

I have a personal commitment that my farm will be a better farm in 2022 than it was in 2021. Erosion control. Plant life that increases small game population. Improving structure efficiency. Improving equipment efficiency to minimize fuel use. Improving my personal health with more exercise. Otherwise, not much.

What happens to the land when you are done running 4 wheelers all over it? Any land, not just yours. ???

 

[Agvg]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_Tractor_Plant

 

[ArtMech]

Russia have no resources to start a war, today's Russia is not the CCCP who was a superpower.

Most wars start because of the resources.

But OK, let's go back to the tractors, until we're not closed.

 

[Agvg]

Tractors from the old USSR was not very popular in Western Europe, Belarus and Kirovets. East Europe brands like Zetor and Ursus was much more common.

 

[Hay Dude]

If NATO backs Ukraine he can have as many he likes, all the Russian friends of Putin have almost all theyr money invested in the west, poff, all that are gone, the Russian people are not isolated as in the old days and I'm not sure Putin is so popular, usually it's a big difference between propaganda and real life. A invasion gone wrong will probably end the regime.

And that’s the $64,000 question. WILL NATO back Ukraine?

 

[Agvg]

And that’s the $64,000 question. WILL NATO back Ukraine?

Well, that's the question...

 

[CalG]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_Tractor_Plant

Well, Those Kharkiv tractors don't appear to be cute small "special purpose " tractors!

Are they building for the domestic market?

No sense in trying to compete with the Italians, and their Lamborghinis (SL&H) ;-)

 

[Jstpssng]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kharkiv_Tractor_Plant

That was interesting reading. Thank you for posting it.

 

[Jstpssng]

Tractors from the old USSR was not very popular in Western Europe, Belarus and Kirovets. East Europe brands like Zetor and Ursus was much more common.

Belarus were imported here for a while about 30 years ago. A lot of people liked them because their simple designs made them easier to work on.

 

[Agvg]

Then you have this Belarus, not Ukraine but it's USSR history

 

[Agvg]

This line of large Zetors/Ursus was quite popular, very modern when they came out, now we are in Warzava pact area.