Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,831  
The other huge issue is standardization among charging requirements. Tesla and Chevy have very different charging voltages needed and different plugs. They all do.

Two years ago and I was in Jackson WY for a board meeting and remember vividly the cars at rest stops and turn offs with a generator charging their cars. People in gas stations were bitching about camp sites having generators run all day charging cars, since after ten there is no generator noise allowed. After that I was glad to just take ten minutes to fill up and be on my way.

It's a cult...
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,832  
Seems gasoline or Diesel engines have all been designed to run on the same type of fuel.

Batteries will end up the same way with charging stations.
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,833  
Well, it makes perfect sense to me.

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   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,834  
Yep. Level 2 charging is simply a 220v outlet (likely a certain style but still just an outlet). Would indeed make a good business for anyone who can run 220 wires in a house.

Not anyone - a licensed electrician and properly installed according to National Electrical Code (NEC)

First of all a level one charging is out. who wants to charge all night for just 40 miles. No one would buy an EV with only 40 miles of driving after an all night charge.
Level 2 charging stations add significant load to your service panel, they require installation by an electrician, And your service panel may require an upgrade to accommodate the additional 240V circuit. Often these charging stations require permits by a licensed electrician and inspection requirements.


"Level 1 Car Charging Stations

Level 1 chargers use standard household current at 110/120 volt (110/120V) electrical outlets which generally will not require any changes to your home's electrical system unless you need to add or relocate an outlet to eliminate the use of an extension cord. Using extension cords to charge electric vehicles can pose electrical as well as general safety hazards and should not be considered an option.

Using a basic circuit, Level 1 car charger requires less power but will take much longer to charge your vehicle than a Level 2 car charger. Generally, a 120V outlet can recharge about 40 miles of electric driving overnight. If your daily driving is ever greater than 40 miles, you should consider a 240V charging station at home.

Level 2 Car Charging Stations

Level 2 charging units require a 240 volt (240V) electrical outlet (the kind needed for clothes dryers). Because these units add significant load to your electrical service panel, they require special installation by an electrician. In some cases, your electrical service panel may require an upgrade to accommodate the addition of a 240V circuit.

In addition, depending on your location installation of these car charging stations often require permits which can only be obtained by a licensed electrician. Actual permit and inspection requirements vary from city to city.
Level 2 car charging stations can recharge your vehicle for 200 or more miles of electric driving overnight."


 
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   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,835  
Sounds like the Outlet for my 240V welder would work. Won't there be adapter cables for different brands?
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,836  
Seems gasoline or Diesel engines have all been designed to run on the same type of fuel.

Batteries will end up the same way with charging stations.
No charging-standards (connector compatibility) will stall EV adoption......

Unless, we are forced to buy them.....

Never mind, as you were....

Rgds, D.
 
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   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,837  
After that I was glad to just take ten minutes to fill up and be on my way.
You Sir, are a Time'ist !!!!

(I resemble that ^ remark. :cool: )

The rest of that post of yours cracked me up....

Rgds, D.
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,838  
Well, it makes perfect sense to me.

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The mother of a college-buddy of mine applied for a job at Sears, once he was in HS.

Not long after she started the job, somebody accused her of lying on her job application. She had answered Yes to being Bilingual, as she spoke fluent English and German.

She kept her job; Sears changed the wording on their application forms to English AND French.

Rgds, D.
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,839  
Not anyone - a licensed electrician and properly installed according to National Electrical Code (NEC)

First of all a level one charging is out. who wants to charge all night for just 40 miles. No one would buy an EV with only 40 miles of driving after an all night charge.
Level 2 charging stations add significant load to your service panel, they require installation by an electrician, And your service panel may require an upgrade to accommodate the additional 240V circuit. Often these charging stations require permits by a licensed electrician and inspection requirements.


"Level 1 Car Charging Stations

Level 1 chargers use standard household current at 110/120 volt (110/120V) electrical outlets which generally will not require any changes to your home's electrical system unless you need to add or relocate an outlet to eliminate the use of an extension cord. Using extension cords to charge electric vehicles can pose electrical as well as general safety hazards and should not be considered an option.

Using a basic circuit, Level 1 car charger requires less power but will take much longer to charge your vehicle than a Level 2 car charger. Generally, a 120V outlet can recharge about 40 miles of electric driving overnight. If your daily driving is ever greater than 40 miles, you should consider a 240V charging station at home.

Level 2 Car Charging Stations

Level 2 charging units require a 240 volt (240V) electrical outlet (the kind needed for clothes dryers). Because these units add significant load to your electrical service panel, they require special installation by an electrician. In some cases, your electrical service panel may require an upgrade to accommodate the addition of a 240V circuit.

In addition, depending on your location installation of these car charging stations often require permits which can only be obtained by a licensed electrician. Actual permit and inspection requirements vary from city to city.
Level 2 car charging stations can recharge your vehicle for 200 or more miles of electric driving overnight."



I installed mine and i am not a licensed electrician. So, YES, anyone homeowner can here. It is just a 220V outlet.
 
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Not anyone - a licensed electrician and properly installed according to National Electrical Code (NEC)

First of all a level one charging is out. who wants to charge all night for just 40 miles. No one would buy an EV with only 40 miles of driving after an all night charge.
Level 2 charging stations add significant load to your service panel, they require installation by an electrician, And your service panel may require an upgrade to accommodate the additional 240V circuit. Often these charging stations require permits by a licensed electrician and inspection requirements.


"Level 1 Car Charging Stations

Level 1 chargers use standard household current at 110/120 volt (110/120V) electrical outlets which generally will not require any changes to your home's electrical system unless you need to add or relocate an outlet to eliminate the use of an extension cord. Using extension cords to charge electric vehicles can pose electrical as well as general safety hazards and should not be considered an option.

Using a basic circuit, Level 1 car charger requires less power but will take much longer to charge your vehicle than a Level 2 car charger. Generally, a 120V outlet can recharge about 40 miles of electric driving overnight. If your daily driving is ever greater than 40 miles, you should consider a 240V charging station at home.

Level 2 Car Charging Stations

Level 2 charging units require a 240 volt (240V) electrical outlet (the kind needed for clothes dryers). Because these units add significant load to your electrical service panel, they require special installation by an electrician. In some cases, your electrical service panel may require an upgrade to accommodate the addition of a 240V circuit.

In addition, depending on your location installation of these car charging stations often require permits which can only be obtained by a licensed electrician. Actual permit and inspection requirements vary from city to city.
Level 2 car charging stations can recharge your vehicle for 200 or more miles of electric driving overnight."


The way you like to turn molehills into mountains means you do not need an EV because the mountains will cut your range more than a molehill. :)
 
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