Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Gale Hawkins]

The Chevy Volt is the best used car bargain in America

While 2019 was the last year of the Volt production here is a story about it. Hybrids may be the introduction to EVs for some people.

 

[cqaigy2]

I believe it’s ”F-150 Lightning”.
An “F-150 Lightening” would be removing the spare tire, back seat and having only a couple gallons of gas in the tank to make it faster.

I believe the "Lightening" is in reference to your wallet. Man pickups are expensive, EV or otherwise.

 

[milkman636]

The F150 powerboost hybrid is of great interest to me. If they get a slightly bigger battery so I can go 30-40 miles on electric alone when I’m just putzing around empty I’d hop on one.

 

[cqaigy2]

Rolls Royce Small Modular Reactor

YouTube Just Have a Think

 

[Hay Dude]

I believe the "Lightening" is in reference to your wallet. Man pickups are expensive, EV or otherwise.

Even better!
Some people spend $50,000-$100,000 for fuel efficiency while forgetting “money efficiency“.

 

[Agvg]

Buy it.
Zero maintenance involvement.
Use it till the battery becomes an issue.
Ditch it.

EVs don't seem much different than cell-phones....

Rgds, D.

Batteries are possible to repair, when this is everywhere you will find shops that serve batteries like you find shops that handle ICEs major parts.

Here I live there are many EVs and even the oldest keep on running, on a old leaf with a small battery you will notice reduced range but still very popular cars in the used markets, a lot of independent garages are training mechanics to handle the EV bit so you can get thing fixed whiteout going to the dealer. An EV is a very simple machine so lifetime will be long when used parts and knowledge is more common.

 

[3930dave]

Batteries are possible to repair, when this is everywhere you will find shops that serve batteries like you find shops that handle ICEs major parts.

Here I live there are many EVs and even the oldest keep on running, on a old leaf with a small battery you will notice reduced range but still very popular cars in the used markets, a lot of independent garages are training mechanics to handle the EV bit so you can get thing fixed whiteout going to the dealer. An EV is a very simple machine so lifetime will be long when used parts and knowledge is more common.

I was going to say 20, but actually even 10 years out, the "repair" market is going to look a lot different.

Many mechanics today don't like to work on electrical issues. A younger generation may be different, but I suspect many that are tech oriented, will go into a different trade.

There will be a problem with the repair business-model for EVs. Not like a garage can stay afloat just doing ICE oil and filter changes, but if EV maintenance mostly revolves around doing infrequent HV battery swaps, it doesn't make sense as a business.

I agree with your technical points, and do like to see things repaired and kept in use, but expect that EVs will have a lifecycle and usage pattern closer to cell-phones, than what ICE vehicles used to be.

Rgds, D.

 

[Agvg]

Those mechanics that can't handle complex systems are useless on modern ICE cars, and has been for years, a lot of "mechanics" should have found new work that is in line with the incompetence level they have.

You count out all the nerds that love electronic, mechanic and are bright on a different level, many of those love EVs.

 

[DieselBound]

Just seems unfair that people unable to afford them have to subsidize them.
EVs are still largely a wealthy persons vehicle

And by a long ways when considering the wealth of the average human (not just US/West). The planet's poor have subsidized a lot: time to remind of Musk's comment about "coup-ing anyone we want to" (never mind the affects on the poor).

Prices on some EVs, however, are cheaper than high-end ICE vehicles. And there's also reduced operational costs to consider (this is something that is a big deal, to me anyways).

Back in the day the Prius was going to save humanity/the planet. Now it's EVs. We are only slowing down the inevitable: I'd like to think that the extra time could inform us as to how we could manage to corral the growth monster, but the producer-consumer paradigm is likely going to keep that monster hidden until it eats us alive...

 

[Agvg]

And what's the requirements to run a car workshop i US, I'm aware that this might vary a great deal. Her the normal route to become a mechanic is three years on technical school and two years as a apprentice with a exam on the shop floor that can take a long time, and of course a theoretical exam at end of the school.

EV knowledge is in the education as ICE barley have any sales anymore.


This is the way most trades educate people.

And all car workshops must have a technical leader with a least a two years engineering degree in the field + experience.