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The brakes get hot and slow you down a little for a short while.

The guy in question never blew an air line. He didn’t have any working trailer brakes to start with, and was rolling down the hill in neutral. And obviously the truck brakes overheated and failed. It’s also likely he was going well above the 45 mph speed limit before he even topped the hill but that’s not been mentioned.
 
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Actually I shouldn't have said above 5 mph. But at freeway speeds they are useless. I had the emergency air line rupture at 60 mph. Within seconds I could just keep driving if I wanted to. Until the brakes caught fire. It did nothing to slow the truck down. And it wasn't loaded very heavy.
 
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Actually I shouldn't have said above 5 mph. But at freeway speeds they are useless. I had the emergency air line rupture at 60 mph. Within seconds I could just keep driving if I wanted to. Until the brakes caught fire. It did nothing to slow the truck down. And it wasn't loaded very heavy.
Did it deploy every axel? And did the line fully dump the pressure or just bleed some off? If your truck will keep driving down the road with every spring brake fully deployed you’ve got something wrong.
 
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Did it deploy every axel? And did the line fully dump the pressure or just bleed some off? If your truck will keep driving down the road with every spring brake fully deployed you’ve got something wrong.
There's nothing wrong they won't stop the truck at freeway speeds. New tractors and trailers often have spring brakes on just 1 axle. They are parking brakes. They won't stop the truck at speed. And yes they lost all pressure. They were adjusted fine even after it happened. The brakes on the trailer were the only ones that set. Twice as many would not have stopped the truck either. But the service brakes did. An it had spring brakes on both axles. All our trailers do for safety when being unloaded or loaded without a tractor attached. None of our new tractors with tandem rear axles have spring brakes on both rear axles.
 
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There's nothing wrong they won't stop the truck at freeway speeds. New tractors and trailers often have spring brakes on just 1 axle. They are parking brakes. They won't stop the truck at speed. And yes they lost all pressure. They were adjusted fine even after it happened. The brakes on the trailer were the only ones that set. Twice as many would not have stopped the truck either. But the service brakes did. An it had spring brakes on both axles. All our trailers do for safety when being unloaded or loaded without a tractor attached. None of our new tractors with tandem rear axles have spring brakes on both rear axles.

Maybe so but he burned the brakes off. They didn’t fail to apply. It was admitted in court he was rolling the hill in neutral. And he didn’t have functional trailer brakes before he ever went down the hill.
 
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Been watching some of this here.
Many different view points coming from different groups for different reasons.
Myself 110 years seems excessive dependant on some things that we can’t answer from the information we have.
For me to formulate an honest opinion I would need a lot more information and some of the questions that need asked might actually offend some people.
I train many people that English is a second or third language and there are a lot of people who rather than work at understanding, they pretend to understand for whatever reason you can imagine. Some trainers don’t bother to insure they are understood. Some trainers will forgo the need for translators or verification with a translator at the very least.
Could he actually read the road signs?
How much and what quality training did he receive?
Did the training include actual hands on exercise, including hard braking, downshifting, steep hills, hunting gears and exorcises in quick thinking and pushing the drivers nerves to see if they are able to think under pressure?

I have been handed newer drivers that were given very poor training at some very well known trucking companies. No words can describe my I’ll feelings about this training. They are not even trained properly to pass a basic skills test and I wouldn’t have considered them worthy of giving the actual skill test for thier license but here they are standing in front of me saying I have a CDL!

The last one that I worked with came to us with about 300 hours experiance and a valid CDL. During his first on road observation he was flabbergasted when I had him go down the mountain roads where he had to determine proper gearing, when to downshift and had a difficult time holding everything together. He had no true understanding of how to correct mistakes with shifting and needed to come to a complete stop almost every time he missed a shift. Yes he read about hunting gears in a book but never had to put it to practice as his first trainer couldn’t do it himself. This to me should have been clear and practiced long before he was given a basic skills test and issued a CDL.
He could barely back the truck/ trailer and was only able to perform one basic backing maneuver but understood nothing of the reasoning and theory. In simple terms he had nothing to really base things on and build from.
For the drivers out there who wonder why so many are having difficulty at the truck stops and why we instantly move our trucks when certain known carrier trucks even show a hint of issue when backing beside or near us will understand now why unless the conditions are perfect, the stars and planets aligned perfectly these new drivers will tear your mirrors off, at best and destroy your front end at worst unless you move, get out and spot them in or some act of God helps the poor soul to somehow recognize the difference between thier training and this real world situation.Simply put they were not ready to drive solo. They were however shown a few cones told practice this and you’ll get a license when you can do it correctly 2 out of ten times and one of those 2 times happens when the tester is here.

So yes it might be excessive, but it might not be and the people responsible for this could very well include the company, trainers and it certainly does include the politicians who think that the big companies who are being trusted with this driver training can be trusted to complete the task without letting profits get in the way of proper and complete training.

Myself. At night I can sleep well knowing that If my name appears at the bottom of a new drivers certification, that driver will have the tools, knowledge and be confident in handling that truck on thier own.
Otherwise they wont be getting my signature on that form! I highly doubt this guys trainer can say the same unless he is plain and simply put stone stupid or has no ethics at all.
pualfun9, it is great to hear that you take your job's responsibility seriously. And you are spot on that there is more to the story, especially since this driver isn't an owner operator. These "accidents" will not stop until the people who knowingly put unqualified and/or reckless drivers behind the wheel of deficient equipment get held personally accountable. No more hiding behind the corporate veil. No more the business goes belly up and the owners/decision makers walk away scot free only to start up again under a different name. Everyone responsible for putting that driver in that potentially deficient truck, including the truck's owners, should be held to account for their part in the sequence of events leading up to the loss of life. Same for that boat accident.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/27724...y-crash-closed-his-eyes-seconds-before-impact

Mederos's employer Castellano 03 Trucking has a public record available from the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA). This record confirms that the small trucking company—five drivers and five trucks in size—was cited twice in late 2018 for having drivers with an inadequate understanding of the English language, both times for the same truck, though the driver(s) of this truck are not identified. Law enforcement reportedly required a translator to communicate with Mederos.
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Since November 1, 2017, Castellano 03 Trucking has also been cited 10 times for poorly maintained brakes across four of its five trucks, though the truck cited for a driver (or drivers) with inadequate English accounts for only one of these violations. In total, Castellano has been cited 30 times across 19 inspections, and the truck associated with the language violations accounts for eight of these failures to comply.

Truck driver in deadly I-70 crash says that another trucker was to blame

Yesterday, a truck driver accused of causing a massive fiery pileup that killed 4 people appeared in court — and his legal team tried to place the blame for the crash on another truck driver.
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Another major revelation that came out as part of Aguilera-Mederos’s court appearance was that he had travelled on the I-70 route where the crash occurred three times before.


Tried to blame the tractor trailer on the shoulder. I couldn't find out what specifically happened with the truck on the shoulder, if he hit it or chose to hit cars instead.
 
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He probably thinks a truck that was stopped on the shoulder should have not been there so he could use the shoulder to avoid hitting the slowed traffic.
This leads to two thoughts.
Why was the truck stopped? Was he in the traffic lanes at all and what makes a truck stopped with flashers on for maybe overheated brakes, breakdown, basically a potential emergency issue themselves?Stopping for emergency purposes only if I remember correctly!
So every truck driver in the country can rear end any traffic in front of them as long as there is a truck on the berm just before the point of impact? Never heard anything so obsurd in my life!

Just the short video we all see tells me loud and clear that he was out of control long before he decided to go past the runaway ramp. If he had just done his job and used it he might be looking at finding a new job but would not be looking at 110 years in jail.
 
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There's nothing wrong they won't stop the truck at freeway speeds. New tractors and trailers often have spring brakes on just 1 axle. They are parking brakes. They won't stop the truck at speed. And yes they lost all pressure. They were adjusted fine even after it happened. The brakes on the trailer were the only ones that set. Twice as many would not have stopped the truck either. But the service brakes did. An it had spring brakes on both axles. All our trailers do for safety when being unloaded or loaded without a tractor attached. None of our new tractors with tandem rear axles have spring brakes on both rear axles.
If they asked me to drive a truck with spring brakes only on one axel, I would walk away and find a new job immediately! Unless it was a single and had a lower wieght rating to match!
 
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There's nothing wrong they won't stop the truck at freeway speeds. New tractors and trailers often have spring brakes on just 1 axle. They are parking brakes. They won't stop the truck at speed. And yes they lost all pressure. They were adjusted fine even after it happened. The brakes on the trailer were the only ones that set. Twice as many would not have stopped the truck either. But the service brakes did. An it had spring brakes on both axles. All our trailers do for safety when being unloaded or loaded without a tractor attached. None of our new tractors with tandem rear axles have spring brakes on both rear axles.
That is odd, Regulations Section says "Question 2: Are all brakes on a trailer required to be applied automatically upon breakaway? Guidance: Yes"
That would seem to imply that spring brake cans are required on both axles.

Aaron Z
 
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