Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,401  
Yup! Just man up and walk away from a pension & benefits after 30 years.:ROFLMAO:
Its sooooo easy! :rolleyes:
Isn't this like helping someone else spend their own money (easy to play it from the couch)? :D
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,404  
Please do... 'cause I've only managed to hold a few winning hands in the game of life.
I said that I could show you, not that you could get your hands on them (you'd likely be killed doing so). I don't look to "win." Further, life isn't a game. I'd like to think that the many years on this rock have allowed me to attain some sense of wisdom...
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,405  
I said that I could show you, not that you could get your hands on them (you'd likely be killed doing so). I don't look to "win." Further, life isn't a game. I'd like to think that the many years on this rock have allowed me to attain some sense of wisdom...
No...life isn't a game. If it is, I've lost too many pieces already...
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,406  
No...life isn't a game. If it is, I've lost too many pieces already...
Do you still have a soul? (one can take this anyway one wants- I'm not leveraging in the context of religion, but one can take it as such and, well, I'm good with that) I've seen too many people die. I've seen horrible living conditions. I seem to still be intact, though time is starting to beat down my door; but, I believe I still have all MY Pieces. :D
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,407  
Do you still have a soul? (one can take this anyway one wants- I'm not leveraging in the context of religion, but one can take it as such and, well, I'm good with that) I've seen too many people die. I've seen horrible living conditions. I seem to still be intact, though time is starting to beat down my door; but, I believe I still have all MY Pieces. :D
My Soul is all I have ever had, the rest is cast in clay...
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,408  
Back to electric cars, “how do you know it’s working?”
 
   / Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow. #6,409  
Touched a Chevy Bolt for the first time ever the other day. While it may not burn oil it sure has a lot of it embedded in it- lots of plastic body parts! And this is a big thing that very few people seem to understand. Big drop in oil production will mean that components and roads will be drastically more expensive: I refer to this situation as "economies of scale in reverse" (reductions in production mean a loss of [positive] economies of scale). Be careful of what you wish for: if you take everything into consideration then you'll likely be ready, otherwise, and seems to be the overwhelming case, most people fall short and end up being totally caught off guard, perplexed when things aren't what they'd had in their head (the result of marketing hype).
 
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And this is a big thing that very few people seem to understand. Big drop in oil production will mean that components and roads will be drastically more expensive
Here's the critical diagram to understand:
Oil-products-768x742.png


The things at the top of the diagram are really important and worth just about any amount of money. They also have few or no alternatives.

At the bottom you have the waste product -- gasoline -- which subsidizes all the rest of it. As we move to EVs for small vehicles the real working fuels and critical feed stocks are going to get more expensive. Up to twice as expensive if we stop using gasoline and diesel for cars, pickup trucks, and lawn tractors entirely.
 
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