Truck snowplow on tractor front 3 point

   / Truck snowplow on tractor front 3 point #41  
They get rid of the hanging ice and snow shelves above the access road using a small dozer.
 
   / Truck snowplow on tractor front 3 point #42  
Ya... Just look at pictures of that truck a few posts up to see why a trip edge or blade is something you need. It's really good to have for slow speed plowing, but critical got faster plowing.
I once owned a Deere that had encountered a sidewalk curb (not by me).
The right loader arm showed some serious repairs due to a curb encounter at speed.

It was a large cumbersome rig, had blower and FEL and cabbed but was only 2 WD so my hills were problematic even with chains.
Also big for tight spots.
LOL, no PS so I had to raise the front with FEL to make tight turns.
I traded for a 4 x 4 CUT that has served me well for 12 years, and counting.
 
   / Truck snowplow on tractor front 3 point #43  
I get goosebumps watching videos from a guy in Austria doing snow removal with tractors. Mountain on one side, cliff drop into the valley without guardrails in many shots. Many at night so all you see is a black abyss in front of the tractor.

We don't have those steep hills but lots of snow in the lower Laurentians snow belt area.
Consequently my CUT's rear blower sports 4 ft drift cutters that often are real handy.
 
   / Truck snowplow on tractor front 3 point #44  
It’s what they are calling a general purpose blade. Can be used for snow, silage, stone, dirt, but not excavation.
Has hydraulic cushion valve if blade corners hit an immovable object
I wouldn't do it. Sounds to me like either a cheap plow being advertised as doing everything or one for avery specific task that lacks features designed to protect your equipment under normal snow work conditions.

A cushion valve will let the front corner of a plow get pushed back if it hits an immovable object. But it can do nothing if you hit that immovable object with the trailing side of the plow.

A trip edge or trip mouldboard lets the cutting edge or whole plow bade kick back out of the way on that immovable object.

The classic snow example would be a curb. If you had your plow angled to the right & caught a curb with the right side a cushion valve could do nothing. You'd likely tweak your plow or mounting frame if you were at any speed. If the plow was straight or angled left the cushion valve would likely trip & let the plow pivot to the right. Which would help minimize some of the impact, possibly preventing damage.

If you had a trip edge & had your plow straight or angled to the right things wouldn't likely be as bad. The trip edge would trip & the back end of the plow would rotate back. The plow would act as an inverted ramp. The plow & front of the tractor would get lifted up a bit, depending on how it was mounted. Big bang, pile of snow dropped by the plow, probably some damaged underware, but likely no damage to the plow or mount.

I trip mine every so often. Usually at slow speed against hard frozen snow or frozen dirt. It makes a huge racket as it bangs around but makes you appreciate dealing with the noise as compared to a twisted loader (or other mount).
 
   / Truck snowplow on tractor front 3 point
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#45  
I wouldn't do it. Sounds to me like either a cheap plow being advertised as doing everything or one for avery specific task that lacks features designed to protect your equipment under normal snow work conditions.

A cushion valve will let the front corner of a plow get pushed back if it hits an immovable object. But it can do nothing if you hit that immovable object with the trailing side of the plow.

A trip edge or trip mouldboard lets the cutting edge or whole plow bade kick back out of the way on that immovable object.

The classic snow example would be a curb. If you had your plow angled to the right & caught a curb with the right side a cushion valve could do nothing. You'd likely tweak your plow or mounting frame if you were at any speed. If the plow was straight or angled left the cushion valve would likely trip & let the plow pivot to the right. Which would help minimize some of the impact, possibly preventing damage.

If you had a trip edge & had your plow straight or angled to the right things wouldn't likely be as bad. The trip edge would trip & the back end of the plow would rotate back. The plow would act as an inverted ramp. The plow & front of the tractor would get lifted up a bit, depending on how it was mounted. Big bang, pile of snow dropped by the plow, probably some damaged underware, but likely no damage to the plow or mount.

I trip mine every so often. Usually at slow speed against hard frozen snow or frozen dirt. It makes a huge racket as it bangs around but makes you appreciate dealing with the noise as compared to a twisted loader (or other mount).
Yeah, I run a trip edge Artic on my small tractor and it has protected me a few times.
I’m just a bit surprised how little there is available for a front 3 point.
I guess it’s going to have to be a truck plow fabricated into a 3 point.
 
   / Truck snowplow on tractor front 3 point #46  
If you had a trip edge & had your plow straight or angled to the right things wouldn't likely be as bad.
That is why I prefer a Fisher plow over a Meyer that tips the whole blade forward. Plus if you are stacking snow with the blade the Fisher will not lean forward and allow the snow to fall on the blade and trap it as a Meyer will. Having said that I use a Meyer blade because that is what I found on the used market and outside of New England and NY you just don't see many Fisher set ups.
 
   / Truck snowplow on tractor front 3 point #47  
I have a WorkSaver plow on my Mahindra Baba. It cost a fortune and in the first winter (last winter) one of the skid shoes broke and WorkSaver said the dealer would have to deal with it. So what's a warranty worth? I had to take the broken thing 20 miles to the dealer and wait a few days while they welded it up. Damn. Then one of the pins broke that secure it from flopping around. This time the dealer fabricated a replacement and the salesman came over and installed it for me. Okay: good dealer (Chappell in Brentwood NH) but WorkSaver is a POS.

>"If haying was easy, everyone would do it. It isn't."

My first job was haying on a rich man's "farm" in Concord MA: summer of 1942 @ 25 cents an hour, 1943 @ 30 cents, 1944 @ 35 cents. I was the littlest kid, so I got to walk the top of the wagon, catching the hay off the other guys' forks and tromping it down. Then back at the barn I got to pass it up to the other guys in the loft. The gimmick of course was that Mister XXXX got a farmer's ration sticker for his 1940 Lincoln Continental with its 12-cylinder engine, plus the Allis Chalmers tractor got an unlimited supply.

The other kids were tough lads from Boston who came out for the summer and lived in an old CCC barrack.

There were some genuine farms on Monument Street. One of them had a tractor with cleated steel wheels and a hand-crank to start. One day it started on a backfire and had three speeds in reverse, one speed forward. (Or were they lying to me?)
 
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#49  
That is why I prefer a Fisher plow over a Meyer that tips the whole blade forward. Plus if you are stacking snow with the blade the Fisher will not lean forward and allow the snow to fall on the blade and trap it as a Meyer will. Having said that I use a Meyer blade because that is what I found on the used market and outside of New England and NY you just don't see many Fisher set ups.
My Arctic is a trip edge. I have always liked trip edge plows
 
   / Truck snowplow on tractor front 3 point #50  
One day it started on a backfire and had three speeds in reverse, one speed forward. (Or were they lying to me?)
When I was learning to drive a tiller truck equipped with a 6-71 Detroit I managed to get it running backwards when I let it drift backwards on a hill and I let the clutch out too quickly after I stalled it. Forward gear does become reverse and you put down quite a smoke screen as well. 🙄
 

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