Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[KiotiKowboy]

It's really quite simple.

If EV is a great idea - it will prosper on its own. There should be no need for subsidies or tax breaks.

Targeting existing industries for destruction, especially at great cost to citizens, to force a move to EV is a "C L U E" this is ideology and not a good idea.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

It's really quite simple.

If EV is a great idea - it will prosper on its own. There should be no need for subsidies or tax breaks.

Targeting existing industries for destruction, especially at great cost to citizens, to force a move to EV is a "C L U E" this is ideology and not a good idea.

I agree 100%.

Fossil Fuels Received $5.9 Trillion In Subsidies in 2020, Report Finds

e360.yale.edu

 

[Fuddy1952]

I'm not saying I'm right or wrong...but from Kelly Blue Book:
"Most public charging stations deliver Level 2 power, adding 25 miles per hour to a Chevrolet Bolt EV. Level 3 chargers, also known as direct current fast chargers, provide way more power, but they are far less common."
To me, adding 25 miles per hour or Level 3 even: (myev.com) "80% charge in 30-60 minutes at $0.29/min. ( EVgo station. (It’s $0.25 a minute for EVgo subscribers.) A 25-minute session that added around 50 miles of added range to a Volkswagen eGolf cost $7.25, which comes out to $3.62 for 25 miles. By comparison, the EPA says it costs an average of $2.26 to pilot the standard gas-powered VW Golf the same distance."
And some say "free sun power" i.e. solar home charger...what did the solar system cost?
Again, some free charging stations (the hook) then not free (reel 'em in) then since entire electric grid must be upgraded...who pays? The consumer/taxpayers do.
It still requires materials using petroleum products producing things, generating power, etc.
In the future will there be loggers using battery powered 72" bar chainsaws? Battery powered landscaper mowers running 10 hours on a charge? Battery powered Cat D11 dozers that can run all day? John Deere 9620RX battery tractors? Peterbilt's hauling all day, etc.
A small, inexpensive EV for short everyday store/Dr trips may be practical. I prefer choices, not things we're forced into.
As gas prices increase EVs appear way more practical...FOR NOW.
The future? Who knows.

 

[KiotiKowboy]

"...As gas prices increase EVs appear way more practical...FOR NOW..."

Gas prices would not really increase if they weren't purposely driven higher by climate warriors.

 

[Fuddy1952]

I agree 100%.

Fossil Fuels Received $5.9 Trillion In Subsidies in 2020, Report Finds

e360.yale.edu

And the article talks about a million deaths per year from air pollution!
The sad thing are the (legal) EIGHT million deaths per year from tobacco and over 3 million deaths per year from alcohol.
Hmmmmm.......

 

[Steppenwolfe]

And the article talks about a million deaths per year from air pollution!
The sad thing are the (legal) EIGHT million deaths per year from tobacco and over 3 million deaths per year from alcohol.
Hmmmmm.......

Alcohol and tobacco are self imposed...The air is what you get.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

"...As gas prices increase EVs appear way more practical...FOR NOW..."

Gas prices would not really increase if they weren't purposely driven higher by climate warriors.

Or gas and oil companies seeking record profits...

 

[KiotiKowboy]

Or gas and oil companies seeking record profits...

BUT ... that is a market force - AND - there is nothing wrong with making a profit. There is, however, something wrong with artificially driving up prices by destroying industries for political motives.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

BUT ... that is a market force - AND - there is nothing wrong with making a profit. There is, however, something wrong with artificially driving up prices by destroying industries for political motives.

OK... The ends justify the means... Greed is good.

 

[KiotiKowboy]

OK... The ends justify the means... Greed is good.

Let's try this .... People can choose to quit dealing with a company. It's a little more difficult to quit dealing with a tyrannical government.