Tractor Parts Yesterday

   / Tractor Parts Yesterday #31  
I can relate to the experience walking into a tractor dealer and being looked at like you are an alien from outer space.

I have been considering the purchase of a CTL with a brush cutter for awhile. Id like to rent or lease one for a month or so before dropping $75,000 to $100k.

After seeing a video of a Kubota CTL brushcutter combo I decided to drop in at a local Kubota dealer known to have an active rental inventory to see about renting one.

When I walked in the door there were 3 employees standing nearby in casual conversation. None bothered to speak as they all looked at me like I was a space alien. I made a common greeting like “good afternoon” Which went completely ignored. I asked where the rental guy was and one of the 3 pointed to the guy behind the counter at the rear of the showroom. No spoken word from any of them to me.

Now, I’ve looked around a bit and while I’m partial to JD I’ve considered Kubota, NH, CAT, etc. and I was looking to spend around $4k or so for a month of CTL rental all up. If they had one ready to go that day I would have had It delivered.

Walked back to the counter where the rental guy seemed to be struggling to put a safety guard on a string trimmer. Asked him I’d he was the rental guy and if he had time to talk. He never stopped his struggle with the string trimmer to reply ”sure, what’s you need”.

I asked about renting a CTL with a brushcutter and was told very tersely that “we don’t do anything with brushcutters on the front”. No interest shown on Offering anything else or helping in any way. Never stopped struggling with that string trimmer safety guard the entire time. I thanked him and walked out.

As I drove off I wondered if the dealership owner would have approved of a Sales employee prioritizing putting a string trimmer together over a potential customer who drove to the dealership to do business and was interested in spending $4k immediately and was a potential $100k customer later.
You needed to do what a friends dad did years ago. He owned a small electrical company and on the way home one night in his work cloths stopped at the Chev dealer wanting to buy 4 new company service vans. Walked in in work clothes not one sales person even greeted him. He wandered around he said for 10 minutes and the sales people offered no help. Walked out to his truck drove to the Ford dealer walked in was greeted and ask what they could do for him. He said they could sell him some vans and proceeded to buy 4 new trucks. Now the funny part. After the deal was signed he asked the sales guy if he would phone the Chev dealer and thank them for ignoring the gentleman that was just in their showroom a little earlier because he just sold him 4 vans. With a big smile he picked up the phone
 
   / Tractor Parts Yesterday #32  
rScotty
My having many yrs experience looking up JD parts I seriously doubt the JD parts list you presented that the part # couldn't be cross referenced. Post the part #s & I'll be glad to check the part #s for you. Another thing you can do is Goggle your so called outdated part # to determine if it's recognizable by Google. I think all brands of equipment dealers have experience with uncaring/not very brand knowledgeable employees.
I hear you but the employer shouldn’t harm their business by keeping some folks on the payroll.
 
   / Tractor Parts Yesterday #33  
My point was simply that buying tractor parts has become more difficult at the dealer than it is online.
That surprised me, and I thought I would share it. Yes, I know that it bothers some people to find that out. Frankly it bothers me a bit too.

As we've proven in this thread, Jim - you and I and several others here can find those parts on the web in two minutes or less. We can find what model they fit, where they are in stock, and what the original JD part numbers are. And we aren't professional part guys - except for Jim. But we can even find out something about the material and improvements re: Willy said, "Viton & ethanol resistant"

However, at the dealership they couldn't find any of those things using their own system even when given all the in house advantages including their own invoice, and a JD parts book. They finally gave up.

And that's exactly my point. It's not to establish blame.
It used to be I would go to the dealer first and do parts research online only if the dealer couldn't help. Now the world of parts has changed. It has become more efficient for me to go online than to the dealer. To me, that's a big change - and I wonder where it takes us.
rScotty
Well said
 
   / Tractor Parts Yesterday #34  
You needed to do what a friends dad did years ago. He owned a small electrical company and on the way home one night in his work cloths stopped at the Chev dealer wanting to buy 4 new company service vans. Walked in in work clothes not one sales person even greeted him. He wandered around he said for 10 minutes and the sales people offered no help. Walked out to his truck drove to the Ford dealer walked in was greeted and ask what they could do for him. He said they could sell him some vans and proceeded to buy 4 new trucks. Now the funny part. After the deal was signed he asked the sales guy if he would phone the Chev dealer and thank them for ignoring the gentleman that was just in their showroom a little earlier because he just sold him 4 vans. With a big smile he picked up the phone
That would be good but I'm not sure the employees at that Kubota dealership would answer the phone.
 
   / Tractor Parts Yesterday #35  
When I bought a new tractor and a pile of stuff to go with it a couple years ago, (pre-COVID) the primary dealers I had to choose from in my area were JD, Kubota, New Holland, and Mahindra. Although I hadn’t owned a tractor before I had used my Dad’s 1940’s and 1950’s tractors since I was a kid and my business dealings required intermittent interaction with the local dealers so I had some familiarity with all of them. We used to have several independent JD dealers but over the years they were all aggregated into one big corporate owner for every dealer within 2 hours of me. Their original single dealership was a pleasure to deal with. As they expanded customer service suffered. Had mixed results with them over the years. The New Holland dealer used to be great, but changed ownership and all their older guys left, apparently taking competence and customer service with them.

Stopped by the JD dealer early in the process, partly to research what they had that would be a good fit for our property. They made it clear very quickly if I looked around and found something they’d sell it to me if I insisted but they had no time to talk about anything then or later. If I was buying a big quad track maybe they could carve out a few minutes but not for a 50hp CUT.

Left there and went to the Kubota dealer. They were slammed busy but after waiting a few minutes a rather harried salesman asked what I needed help with. Told him I needed a basic tractor in the 40 to 50hp range. He said if I could take a look around for about 15 minutes he’d finish what he was doing and take all the time I needed. I had to wait a little but I respected that answer. I looked around a little, he came out to the yard and we talked about what I needed it to do. Drove one around a little and checked out the features and specs on a couple of contenders. He spent about an hour including paperwork and made a $35k sale. Dealer added a third function and the tractor arrived the next afternoon. Have been back for parts and supplies a few times. I just call, tell them what I need to make sure it’s in stock, and by the time I arrive it’s waiting on the parts counter for me. Don’t recall ever having to give them a part number. Back for service once to add rear remotes, top and tail. Same service: dropped it off one afternoon and picked up the next afternoon. Their employees are all friendly even when busy and most have been there many years. I do buy parts and supplies from them so long as they’re competitive and so far they have been every time.

I kind of figure the same manager is over the whole operation so if sales sucks, the rest of the dealership probably does, too.

Not tractor related but that’s also why my camper isn’t an Airstream. That was our first choice until we went to look at them to upgrade from our 20 year old unit. There’s a dealer 10 miles from my house. First time we stopped they were too busy to talk to us. Second time they were getting ready for a RV show and told us to come back later. Third time, they wouldn’t even pull one out of its very tight parking space to let us look at it. Salesman said if you want it, buy it. If you don’t, don’t; but I’m not pulling it out even though you can’t get in the door. He was fixated on my little Frontier we were in wasn’t big enough to pull what we were looking at even though I told him twice we were going to buy a new truck based on whatever camper we bought. Sales wouldn’t spend 10 minutes pulling out a $110,000 camper so we could look it over before buying even though they knew we were paying cash. Maybe we weren’t dressed right or should have bought a dually to impress the salesman before we looked at campers. Wife and I agreed if that was sales, parts and service were probably just as bad. So now I have a Winnebago from another dealer that isn’t perfect but doesn’t totally suck either. It’s also too big for the Frontier but not too big for the truck that replaced it.

Dealer is a big component in an equipment purchase, at least to me. And it isn’t all JD dealers. My brother has a JD and a good relationship with a very helpful dealer (not owned by the same people as the ones around me).

Business I’m in, we have customers. So long as they’re not screaming profanities at us we’re nice to them and as helpful as possible. Without customers, we don’t have a business. Seems pretty straightforward, but apparently not to some.
 
   / Tractor Parts Yesterday #36  
Right up the road from the Kubota dealer who had no time for me was a New Holland dealer with a CTL already paired with a brushcutter. The sales manager greeted me when I walked in the door because his salesmen were busy. We went out and looked at the CTL he had there. I told him up front I was looking more at renting at first and even though he didn't do rentals he had no hesitation about spending time explaining how his New Holland CTL /brushcutter combo would do the job I expected it to do.

Unlike the three 'big shots' at the front door of the Kubota dealer and the 'rental guy' at the back counter this NH sales manager gave a great try to turn me from a "looker" to a "buyer". I haven't ruled his deal out for sure.

If after I rent a unit and I think it would be good to own one I will seriously consider doing business with him.

I also had a great experience with a JD dealer that I had never done business with before and will also consider that dealership based on their interest in selling me a new or used unit. They just didn't do rentals.
 
   / Tractor Parts Yesterday #37  
Thanks for looking out for me on the cost of the rental. Can’t put a price on help like that.

I have a price quote and a contract from a dealer already to rent one with a brush cutter, ins., delivery to and from, etc for a little over $4k per month.

I think You are just being obtuse about not understanding the Kubota dealer missing an opportunity but for the benefit of others here it is again, and for you, in simple terms. They never took the opportunity to try and turn a potential rental customer into a buyer. You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.
Well said
When I bought a new tractor and a pile of stuff to go with it a couple years ago, (pre-COVID) the primary dealers I had to choose from in my area were JD, Kubota, New Holland, and Mahindra. Although I hadn’t owned a tractor before I had used my Dad’s 1940’s and 1950’s tractors since I was a kid and my business dealings required intermittent interaction with the local dealers so I had some familiarity with all of them. We used to have several independent JD dealers but over the years they were all aggregated into one big corporate owner for every dealer within 2 hours of me. Their original single dealership was a pleasure to deal with. As they expanded customer service suffered. Had mixed results with them over the years. The New Holland dealer used to be great, but changed ownership and all their older guys left, apparently taking competence and customer service with them.

Stopped by the JD dealer early in the process, partly to research what they had that would be a good fit for our property. They made it clear very quickly if I looked around and found something they’d sell it to me if I insisted but they had no time to talk about anything then or later. If I was buying a big quad track maybe they could carve out a few minutes but not for a 50hp CUT.

Left there and went to the Kubota dealer. They were slammed busy but after waiting a few minutes a rather harried salesman asked what I needed help with. Told him I needed a basic tractor in the 40 to 50hp range. He said if I could take a look around for about 15 minutes he’d finish what he was doing and take all the time I needed. I had to wait a little but I respected that answer. I looked around a little, he came out to the yard and we talked about what I needed it to do. Drove one around a little and checked out the features and specs on a couple of contenders. He spent about an hour including paperwork and made a $35k sale. Dealer added a third function and the tractor arrived the next afternoon. Have been back for parts and supplies a few times. I just call, tell them what I need to make sure it’s in stock, and by the time I arrive it’s waiting on the parts counter for me. Don’t recall ever having to give them a part number. Back for service once to add rear remotes, top and tail. Same service: dropped it off one afternoon and picked up the next afternoon. Their employees are all friendly even when busy and most have been there many years. I do buy parts and supplies from them so long as they’re competitive and so far they have been every time.

I kind of figure the same manager is over the whole operation so if sales sucks, the rest of the dealership probably does, too.

Not tractor related but that’s also why my camper isn’t an Airstream. That was our first choice until we went to look at them to upgrade from our 20 year old unit. There’s a dealer 10 miles from my house. First time we stopped they were too busy to talk to us. Second time they were getting ready for a RV show and told us to come back later. Third time, they wouldn’t even pull one out of its very tight parking space to let us look at it. Salesman said if you want it, buy it. If you don’t, don’t; but I’m not pulling it out even though you can’t get in the door. He was fixated on my little Frontier we were in wasn’t big enough to pull what we were looking at even though I told him twice we were going to buy a new truck based on whatever camper we bought. Sales wouldn’t spend 10 minutes pulling out a $110,000 camper so we could look it over before buying even though they knew we were paying cash. Maybe we weren’t dressed right or should have bought a dually to impress the salesman before we looked at campers. Wife and I agreed if that was sales, parts and service were probably just as bad. So now I have a Winnebago from another dealer that isn’t perfect but doesn’t totally suck either. It’s also too big for the Frontier but not too big for the truck that replaced it.

Dealer is a big component in an equipment purchase, at least to me. And it isn’t all JD dealers. My brother has a JD and a good relationship with a very helpful dealer (not owned by the same people as the ones around me).

Business I’m in, we have customers. So long as they’re not screaming profanities at us we’re nice to them and as helpful as possible. Without customers, we don’t have a business. Seems pretty straightforward, but apparently not to some.
Well said
 
   / Tractor Parts Yesterday #38  
Well, that's the number right they put on by the JD dealership right on the official JD dealership invoice for the parts that I ordered before. Those are the parts that our oldest local dealership is selling, and that's where I shop. I'm not making this up. You may have seen their letterhead with all the pretty pictures of JD tractors done as a watermark.
Nice stationary they have there....

Jim, google that number if you are curious. Nothing else, just google search on "JDS950". Look at how many hits you get from JD parts houses. Including dealers.
They sell JDSxxx parts all day long.
rScotty
This is the first thing to pop up in less than half a second. Must be a legitimate part #

JDS950 - FUEL FILTER REPAIR KIT - Steiner Tractor Parts​

https://www.steinertractor.com › JDS950-Fuel-Filter-Re...




Fuel Filter Repair Kit. In Stock. At our Michigan warehouse. JDS950. $17.95. - +. Add to cart. economy standard premium truck. Instructions. Specifications ...
 
   / Tractor Parts Yesterday #39  
This is the first thing to pop up in less than half a second. Must be a legitimate part #

JDS950 - FUEL FILTER REPAIR KIT - Steiner Tractor Parts

https://www.steinertractor.com › JDS950-Fuel-Filter-Re...



Fuel Filter Repair Kit. In Stock. At our Michigan warehouse. JDS950. $17.95. - +. Add to cart. economy standard premium truck. Instructions. Specifications ...
Nobody said it isn't a legit part number. By all accounts other than the OP's it is not a John Deere part number, it is an aftermarket part number.
Steiner Tractor Parts is not an authorized Deere dealer and to my knowledge does not sell genuine Deere parts.
Many (most?) tractor dealers have some aftermarket parts alternatives. As an example A&I is one of the top couple aftermarket parts suppliers in the US. A&I is wholly owned by Deere. You would be hard pressed to find a Deere dealer that did not offer A&I parts to its customer base.
 
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