Sit in bathtub/shower?

   / Sit in bathtub/shower?
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The HISA would probably be the most relevant.
My dad got out after 25 years from the military, retired at age 44, and then worked one job for 16 years after that, and two other jobs yet after that (he's even pulling in $89 a month from the state when he retired after the military and "retired" a second time around age 75 from the state LOL).

No service related disability.
 
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Tub finished up 2 days ago.

Dad tried it yesterday.

He likes it.

That said, all the controls can be overwhelming to someone up in age if someone isn't there to go over everything with them. Knowing my father, if he were by himself with no one to help him, he probably would of been having some few choice words and regretting the decision.

Got the shower/tub combo, will need to go over the shower controls with him no doubt when he decides to take a shower.

If you can do it yourself, I suggest you do. I paid someone to do it, very happy with the install. That said, I broke my general philosophy and I went with the lowest quote out of FIVE quotes (generally I only go 3 max). That said, the lowest quote was the first guy out to look at it, and overall, he was probably the second best "sales guy" who knew his stuff and what needed to be done (needed to switch the drain side along with some other things).

One guy I had to laugh at. He came in, gave me a quote for 28k:sick:, asked him what kind of tub they install, he didn't know, then asked me how his quote compared to others. I told him kind of high and he knocked it down to 21k. Geez, thanks. He was the only guy I didn't call back, but his company called a couple of weeks later and they informed me that a supervisor was looking at the quote and they felt like they could do better if I could spend the time to go over it. I told them no thanks.

The "best" guy out I called back, told him I'd prefer to go with him as he had the best presentation and knew his stuff as well, and he basically said "no problem" and hung up. Surprised he didn't ask more questions to see what he could do. After I had the install lined up, that guys "boss" called me a couple of weeks later to see what they could do, told him what I told the guy who came out, and he seemed surprised that he didn't come down on the install price as he could work with me. I told him I already had the install lined up and he should of call sooner.

I don't know the plumbing business, but I do know in HVAC, a good contractor should follow up with you per a residential quote between 3-6 days.

American Standard contractor ticked me off because they would not come out unless both my wife and I were present (sales tactic, I get it, but told everyone up front I wasn't going to spend this kind of money "on the spot"). I hung up on them.
 
   / Sit in bathtub/shower? #43  
Glad you got it installed and your Dad likes it.

I have put everything on hold here for a bit because my FIL is very much demanding to go back to his house. The problem is his doctor said he could not live alone anymore and his house is a nasty trailer that has damage from Hurricane Michael. It is full of mold, the roof leaks and the ceiling is sagging so low it almost touches the couch. There is a rodent infestation and he has not had running water do to pipe damage from the hurricane.

He lied to us about that and would never let my wife go in to check things. He also refuses to take a bath. Challenging is not the word we are experiencing trying to take care of him.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience and if we can get him committed to staying I will make that investment although I doubt he will use it.
 
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Glad you got it installed and your Dad likes it.

I have put everything on hold here for a bit because my FIL is very much demanding to go back to his house. The problem is his doctor said he could not live alone anymore and his house is a nasty trailer that has damage from Hurricane Michael. It is full of mold, the roof leaks and the ceiling is sagging so low it almost touches the couch. There is a rodent infestation and he has not had running water do to pipe damage from the hurricane.

He lied to us about that and would never let my wife go in to check things. He also refuses to take a bath. Challenging is not the word we are experiencing trying to take care of him.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience and if we can get him committed to staying I will make that investment although I doubt he will use it.
Yesterday was the first time in my life I helped my father bathed.

Honestly, part of your FIL's issues with taking a bath is he may not be able take one and is too proud to say anything about it.

I was surprised how slow my own dad is, and he actually wasn't certain of himself getting out of the walk in tub, and I can't imagine how he was dealing with the current tub. That said, my dad actually fell trying to sit on the toilet to try and dry himself off yesterday (new rule is since it's a sit in tub, dry off IN the tub so you don't have to move as much). Heck, it seems like an ordel for him just to get dressed.

My father and I are too much alike, and my wife had to play facilitator last night going over my fathers pain, and the reality is at his age, if your in pain, take what you need and try to live a better quality of life pain free. Seems we will be going back and I'll make arrangements for his monthly pain shot in the back and he may start taking the pain medication the doctor presribed.

My dad was upset because it seems no one told him the tub had to sit full of water for 24 hours to ensure there were no leakages. Thing is, my wife was with me in the basement with him when I mentioned that twice to him the night before. He also complained that no one showed him how to operate the tub, yet he was with me when one of the installers was going over the operataion of the tub.

Next couple of baths I'll be spending time with him to ensure he can get the hang of the tub. Between the tub, handheld shower sprinkler, and the shower head, you do need to know what and where to turn the knob to get the water where you want it. Add in the air jets, air bubles, feet and back location, along with heated seat and lights, honestly is was a little overwhelming to me at first with the all the buttons and knobs.

Wasn't until my dad fractured his back 3 or so years ago that he finally decided to move the 8 hour drive to us (I flew up and drove him down). He pretty much stopped driving this year, but he won't let us take over his car insurance (his car even though we drive it more than he), and since he doesn't really like to drive now and we've had no arguments over it, I'm not going to push that issue.

I know he's thankful for what we do for him (his laundry, meals, going out...), but I also know he's ready to go be with my mom, who passed 18 years ago when he decided to move in with us and he doesn't like the fact that he has lost his independence, which can make him a little more "crabby".

Good luck with your father. You're a good man, just like my wife who puts up with my father from time to time when he's (my dad) in one of his moods.

The irony on my end is dealing with my dad is kind of like dealing with one of my 16 year olds now.
 
   / Sit in bathtub/shower? #45  
I do not like sitting in a tub. I like showers. What I've had here for forty years still suits me just fine. When I come in from a days work on the property - I'm not just sweaty - I'm really dirty. Don't want to sit in a tub of dirty water.

Easy answer - stay the course.
 
   / Sit in bathtub/shower? #46  
Glad you got it installed and your Dad likes it.

I have put everything on hold here for a bit because my FIL is very much demanding to go back to his house. The problem is his doctor said he could not live alone anymore and his house is a nasty trailer that has damage from Hurricane Michael. It is full of mold, the roof leaks and the ceiling is sagging so low it almost touches the couch. There is a rodent infestation and he has not had running water do to pipe damage from the hurricane.

He lied to us about that and would never let my wife go in to check things. He also refuses to take a bath. Challenging is not the word we are experiencing trying to take care of him.

Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience and if we can get him committed to staying I will make that investment although I doubt he will use it.

Yesterday was the first time in my life I helped my father bathed.

Honestly, part of your FIL's issues with taking a bath is he may not be able take one and is too proud to say anything about it.

I was surprised how slow my own dad is, and he actually wasn't certain of himself getting out of the walk in tub, and I can't imagine how he was dealing with the current tub. That said, my dad actually fell trying to sit on the toilet to try and dry himself off yesterday (new rule is since it's a sit in tub, dry off IN the tub so you don't have to move as much). Heck, it seems like an ordel for him just to get dressed.

My father and I are too much alike, and my wife had to play facilitator last night going over my fathers pain, and the reality is at his age, if your in pain, take what you need and try to live a better quality of life pain free. Seems we will be going back and I'll make arrangements for his monthly pain shot in the back and he may start taking the pain medication the doctor presribed.

My dad was upset because it seems no one told him the tub had to sit full of water for 24 hours to ensure there were no leakages. Thing is, my wife was with me in the basement with him when I mentioned that twice to him the night before. He also complained that no one showed him how to operate the tub, yet he was with me when one of the installers was going over the operataion of the tub.

Next couple of baths I'll be spending time with him to ensure he can get the hang of the tub. Between the tub, handheld shower sprinkler, and the shower head, you do need to know what and where to turn the knob to get the water where you want it. Add in the air jets, air bubles, feet and back location, along with heated seat and lights, honestly is was a little overwhelming to me at first with the all the buttons and knobs.

Wasn't until my dad fractured his back 3 or so years ago that he finally decided to move the 8 hour drive to us (I flew up and drove him down). He pretty much stopped driving this year, but he won't let us take over his car insurance (his car even though we drive it more than he), and since he doesn't really like to drive now and we've had no arguments over it, I'm not going to push that issue.

I know he's thankful for what we do for him (his laundry, meals, going out...), but I also know he's ready to go be with my mom, who passed 18 years ago when he decided to move in with us and he doesn't like the fact that he has lost his independence, which can make him a little more "crabby".

Good luck with your father. You're a good man, just like my wife who puts up with my father from time to time when he's (my dad) in one of his moods.

The irony on my end is dealing with my dad is kind of like dealing with one of my 16 year olds now.
You guys might wanna look into getting a CNA/visiting nurse for your fathers. Wife was a CNA for over 30yrs and worked on her own for 25yrs of that doing in home care. From general check-ups making sure they are ok and taking their meds, to light house work and food prep, to full on bathing, wound dressing, etc.. One was a 100+y/o lady she sat with all weekend, every weekend, until she finally passed at 109.

It can make things easier as many older people get 'crabby', as you say, with family, but are more amenable with nurses. Something to think about, even if its for a short time so as to learn how to deal with the challenging stuff, or just a small break once in awhile.

They can also help getting needed equipment, like lift belts, and teaching their proper use for everyone's safety.
 
   / Sit in bathtub/shower? #47  
Thanks so much for the encouragement and wonderful tips. I think our problem is how mean he was to his daughters when they were young. I tend to have more patience with him than they do. Some of his behavior is from aging but most of it has always been there.
 
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Thanks so much for the encouragement and wonderful tips. I think our problem is how mean he was to his daughters when they were young. I tend to have more patience with him than they do. Some of his behavior is from aging but most of it has always been there.
You guys are doing great. I just know that it can be a challenge and frustrating at times.
 
   / Sit in bathtub/shower? #49  
Yesterday was the first time in my life I helped my father bathed.

Honestly, part of your FIL's issues with taking a bath is he may not be able take one and is too proud to say anything about it.

I was surprised how slow my own dad is, and he actually wasn't certain of himself getting out of the walk in tub, and I can't imagine how he was dealing with the current tub. That said, my dad actually fell trying to sit on the toilet to try and dry himself off yesterday (new rule is since it's a sit in tub, dry off IN the tub so you don't have to move as much). Heck, it seems like an ordel for him just to get dressed.

My father and I are too much alike, and my wife had to play facilitator last night going over my fathers pain, and the reality is at his age, if your in pain, take what you need and try to live a better quality of life pain free. Seems we will be going back and I'll make arrangements for his monthly pain shot in the back and he may start taking the pain medication the doctor presribed.

My dad was upset because it seems no one told him the tub had to sit full of water for 24 hours to ensure there were no leakages. Thing is, my wife was with me in the basement with him when I mentioned that twice to him the night before. He also complained that no one showed him how to operate the tub, yet he was with me when one of the installers was going over the operataion of the tub.

Next couple of baths I'll be spending time with him to ensure he can get the hang of the tub. Between the tub, handheld shower sprinkler, and the shower head, you do need to know what and where to turn the knob to get the water where you want it. Add in the air jets, air bubles, feet and back location, along with heated seat and lights, honestly is was a little overwhelming to me at first with the all the buttons and knobs.

Wasn't until my dad fractured his back 3 or so years ago that he finally decided to move the 8 hour drive to us (I flew up and drove him down). He pretty much stopped driving this year, but he won't let us take over his car insurance (his car even though we drive it more than he), and since he doesn't really like to drive now and we've had no arguments over it, I'm not going to push that issue.

I know he's thankful for what we do for him (his laundry, meals, going out...), but I also know he's ready to go be with my mom, who passed 18 years ago when he decided to move in with us and he doesn't like the fact that he has lost his independence, which can make him a little more "crabby".

Good luck with your father. You're a good man, just like my wife who puts up with my father from time to time when he's (my dad) in one of his moods.

The irony on my end is dealing with my dad is kind of like dealing with one of my 16 year olds now.
I feel for you. I remember the first time I had to help my father go to the bathroom. And my wife's grandfather. And my wife's father. And the middle of the night phone calls to go over and pick them up off the floor and get them to the bathroom or use the bedpan or bottle.

It's a weird feeling to see your folks in a weakened state. However, it quickly passed for me, at least, and you remember all the times they must have taken care of you when you were small.

It's one of those life comes full circle moments.

Also makes you appreciate health care workers a lot more.
 
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You guys might wanna look into getting a CNA/visiting nurse for your fathers.
We've been contemplating that depending how rough things get down the road.

For whatever reason, my dad listens better to my wife than I. She also is WAY more tactful than myself, which I'm greatful for.
 

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